RE: Ben Shapiro vs Neil deGrasse Tyson: The WAR Over Transgender Issues
January 24, 2025 at 1:40 pm
(January 3, 2025 at 3:06 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(January 3, 2025 at 8:02 am)Sheldon Wrote: This seems an absurd position to me, it was of course the argument Shapiro tried to peddle with NdGT, and he gave it the contempt it deserved. Just because one sets a bar for credulity that requires beliefs be supported by sufficient objective evidence, does not mean one can't have a favourite colour based on an entirely subjective view, and the same for moral judgements. I can abhor actions like rape and murder that cause harm to others unnecessarily, but this does not mean I delude myself that it is objectively true that harming others is wrong.
Just another disingenuous objection used as cover by a religious nut. It follows pretty cleanly from the notions that there is objective evidence for the existence of trans people and objective evidence that harming people is wrong...that harming trans people would be wrong. They don't give a shit about that, though. Their god has an opinion. Their culture has a position.
Well, morality can be objective.
If harm is detectable by anyone, then it is objective. For example, it is pretty much generally accepted that we don't want to be punched in the face because it hurts, we don't want our stuff stolen from us. <====That is pretty universal and so, it goes into the objective box.
Other decisions, such as deciding that a 16 y old (and less) can't get married since he has not reach the age of consent and so it is immoral, that goes into the subjective box.
