(May 10, 2012 at 4:45 am)DeeTee Wrote: To an extent. many people love to put their ideas on God's words. it happens or they disagree with another person or group and decide to split. Christians do have free choice like everyone else an dif they do not like something they do get to exercise it and move to 'greener ground.'
Paul said--'If any man or angel brings a different gospel than the one Jesus and the disciples brought...' so we have a guideline as to what is the true message.
And therein lies my first problem - surely a god who is going to punish you for eternity for not believing in him would have made a bit more of an effort to make sure his word was easily understood by everyone?
Quote:Yes that does take place but then you need to determine if that person is truly a christian. Lumping all people into one category is easy but it doesn't work. Jesus said--'At the judgement you will come to me and say Lord Lord. I preached... and I will say I never knew you...'
Jesus disntiguishes between true followers and false ones, atheists should do no less.
You do love the 'no true scotsman' fallacy, don't you?
Quote:true but The Bible says -'Without God ye can do nothing' now some people take it to extremes and that is where you need to find a level headed spirtually in tune believer to set things straight.*Bolding mine*
God said in Genesis when He made man- it is good, thus we should not insult God's creative act as believers and stop belittling ourselves.
Let me guess - that person would be you, right? How humble you are.....thank goodness we have you here to "set things straight"
Quote:How many of you are going to give up your sinful lives for what God offers, and you have heard the gospel for a long time now? if you don't, why would you expect child molesters and rapists and murderers to do so? They like the sinful life as much as you do.*Again, bolding mine*
Why do women marry abusive men after their friends, family, co-workers warn her NOT to do so? Because she loves him and has free choice.
Ok, now we get to the meat of it. Who are you to say that anyone here leads a sinful life? Other than not believing (which I consider undeserving of the label 'sin') what exactly do we do that's so sinful? Come on, oh psychic one, tell me what sins I commit, tell me about my 'sinful life' considering you obviously know so much about it.
As for your abusive spouse analogy, I think you'll find a lot of it has to do with the brainwashing these assholes do before marriage - you're not worthy of love, no-one will ever love you like I do, you'd better do what I tell you or else.......sounds very similar to what believers are told while they're still in their formative years. Trust me, after being fed all that shit for so long, they start to believe it and feel they have no choice but to marry the man. Free choice? On the surface, maybe so.
Quote:It seems to me you are using human actions to justify your decision to live a sinful life and Jesus did not say to follow humans but Him.
Again, tell us about these sinful lives we're living. I'm fascinated with your psychic abilities, and considering I think psychics are full of shit, that's no mean feat!
I don't expect a proper response, I've seen your posts and quite frankly, I think you should be a gymnast with all the twisting you do.
"No-one who decides that scientific evidence is not for him and that his own experience or the stories of others is the be all and end all of deciding what's true ever has the right to call people searching for reliable, repeatable evidence narrow-minded. That is hypocrisy of the most laughable kind." Derren Brown - Tricks of the Mind.