RE: Pope candidate Cardinal Turkson: Pedophilia is a white thing
March 10, 2013 at 10:56 am
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2013 at 11:12 am by Gabriel Syme.)
(March 5, 2013 at 5:49 am)Esquilax Wrote: Hey Gabriel? Grow up.
Honestly, I'm now convinced that you're no longer worth a point by point deconstruction. You're just an awful, bigoted troll, and I'm done caring about your ignorant opinions.
Grow the fuck up.
Hi Esquilax,
It is sad to see you resort to this intellectual cowardice when presented with the truth. You seem quite intelligent as well.
I know it must be comforting or affirming for many people to pretend things - ludicrous, demonstrably false things (such as it supports killing gay people) - about the Catholic Church, but ultimately people will only be happy if they can reconcile themselves with reality.
Why waste your time and energies with snide, made-up articles from partisan websites who only seek to delude you?
Why would any intelligent or rational person want to get themselves all worked up about the contents of such a transparent and false article?
It is worthwhile reading only for those who live in a fantasy world and require a constant feed of such make-believe to keep up the illusion.
(March 7, 2013 at 11:49 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: Gabriel, I know I posted about a blog but I verified the information from legitimate news sources before I posted here.
Then could you please post a link, from a legitimate news source, which reports that Ghanaian Cardinal Peter Turkson supports efforts made by non-Catholics, in another country, to kill gay people purely for being gay?
The story is make-believe. For a start, the Catholic Church strongly opposes the concept of a judicial death penalty, in any and all cases.
(March 5, 2013 at 5:03 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I don't actually care too much about whom they elect as Pope. I do think that blog is poorly sourced, but the irony of Gabriel being a stickler for primary sources is razor sharp. If you really are that concerned about primary sources you'd have to throw out the Gospels.
Hi CapnAwesome,
You wouldn't have to throw out the gospels, any more than you would graeco-roman biographies, or indeed probably the majority of surviving documents of that era in time.
Even documents from much more recent in history are known to contain 2nd hand information or exaggeration. For example, the Battle of Bannockburn (1314) was one of the single most significant events in Scottish History, and yet we cannot even state the dispositions of the opposing armies with any great accuracy (estimate vary wildly, by several hundred percent, on each side).
I am well aware that some of these problems naturally affect documents about early Christianity too. However, the general consensus in academia accepting the historicity of the man Christ, and several key events relating to the lifetime, is good enough for me, to demonstrate that Christianity is not an invention.
Of course, agreement that a man named Jesus Christ lived does not represent evidence for the remarkable claims made about him, but it does frame questions relating to Christianity in a different light.
Its not really surprising for me, the quality of documentary evidence relating to early Christianity - it was, after all, chiefly an oral tradition given (even under Roman rule) at that time, only about 3% of Jews would have been literate and so books were useless to them.
I wouldn't say its ironic that I am interested in primary sources - the gospels are not malicious lies designed to upset people and defame others, in the same way that the linked LGBT blog articles are.
