RE: Satan Disproves Christianity
September 21, 2013 at 2:34 pm
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2013 at 2:39 pm by Brian37.)
(September 21, 2013 at 2:12 pm)gilbertc06 Wrote:(September 21, 2013 at 2:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: God worked and works through history, He never intended to change it, He wanted man to, but we did not so He sent His Son into history to redeem man.
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Redeem man from what exactly? It obviously can't be things we know of such as illness, murder, etc...
So what exactly did he save us from?
Hitler, oh wait, Po Pot, oh wait, Stalin, oh wait, Dark Ages, oh wait. 9/11, oh wait, Columbine, oh wait, Newtown, oh wait.
Would anyone hire a baby sitter with such a spotty record?
(September 21, 2013 at 2:26 pm)Esquilax Wrote:You stumbled on a great analogy which atheists argue all the time with one word "path".(September 21, 2013 at 1:49 pm)John V Wrote: Because there were only two people, there were not given rules against those things, and they didn't do them.
Didn't do them yet. You have no reason to assume they wouldn't commit some sin at some point. The fact of the matter is, they did: they ate the fruit of the tree. The one rule they did have, they broke, and yet you seem to be operating under the idea that they'd never ever break rules that they weren't given, simply because it's convenient for you because you locked yourself into this path by stating earlier that all sins are all unacceptable, always.
The theist presumes first and that locks them into a conclusion.
