RE: General argument for Islam.
March 26, 2015 at 8:06 pm
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2015 at 8:06 pm by Mystic.)
(March 26, 2015 at 7:54 pm)Alex K Wrote: l - a - m - e
God could have projected it into the sky in mile high letters 24/7 if it was so important.
But there is beauty in the system as it is, without these bizarre things Atheists always request.
Quote:I'd take God's wisdom allright. I just see no evidence that some old books do contain it - that's really the crucial part.
So your argument becomes specific and goes straight to the conclusion. If God exists, then you do have a need for his wisdom and would take it. So it only makes sense to assume no religion is true if God doesn't exist.
Quote:Plato would be proud of you. Unfortunately, that's not how it played out.
Then we have a very low estimation of the best humans, and the best humans are not that high and exalted. But if we know through morality and praise, there would exist some humans that are of exalted nature, it makes sense to assume that this did happen.
Quote:That's quite some wishful thinking you've got going there. Your argument seems to be that you want a nice and helpful god and therefore deism is not an option.
A non-helping God is not much of a god at all.
Quote:Erm. Ok, where do I start. So... of course you can think of the US of A whatever you want, and it's got its impressive share of flaws, but it damn well led major parts of the world into fucking democracy, including being an inspiration to the french revolution. And most of the crucial guys in designing it were Deists. I think that counts, and you don't know what you are talking about.
That's not much guidance, people are capable of showing some guidance but it takes a true close one to God to know exalted wisdom and share it, and that's only for way later that Deists were on the scene. I'm talking about through out history, through out time.
And I'm talking about thorough guidance, thorough wisdom. The high wisdom simply doesn't exist in Deism. No one one knows it. We're all stuck in the cave with no access to it.