(April 5, 2015 at 4:59 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Paulpablo
Goodness to be me derives from a living reality, the Lord of the worlds. Although we differ often in moralities, it doesn't change that there is source to goodness and especially, the good intention. As objective morality surely has to exist where goodness to be anything but a delusion, it makes sense pure servants of God would have objective morality and be guided towards it.
It's obvious if you accept God, that there is infinite ranks to goodness, and that surely there is some people upon a very high rank from among his creation.
The question then is what does God do with these special people? What does he specially chose them for?
Does he bring them out to the people, manifest their virtue, raise their remembrance or does he leave them that people follow misguided leaders and falsehood?
Does he provide guidance through them and use them or not?
This is the next logical question. I think by God's praiseworthy nature, we can know he would make such people examples to follow, leaders to incline to, pure servants to love, and exalt their mention.
I argue this is because God is graceful and merciful to his creation, and wishes to make such people a mercy towards his creatures. I argue because God wishes to bring a balance against the misguidance and counter balance to the evil and the falsehood.
In my argument, you don't have to assume the Quran is true. You look at the wisdom present in Quran, think about it logically, find it exalted, and find it unique towards the holy book or faiths that are offshoots of the holy book.
So your general argument for Islam is an argument for Islam for people who have already accepted the quran is exalted unique and true?
From your perspective surely there is a massive inbalance between good and evil.
Most of the world commits shirk in the form of hindus and Christians which is a sin that can never be forgiven. Then there's growing numbers of atheists, if I remember right you're a shia Muslim so most Muslims don't believe the exact same thing as you do.
If there is a god and he wants the world to believe the exact same things you do then surely this god has not only failed to do this but the end result is most of humanity worshiping the exact thing he told humanity not to worship.
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