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Reincarnation of the consciousness is inevitable
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RE: Reincarnation of the consciousness is inevitable
(September 15, 2012 at 12:01 pm)Ace Otana Wrote:
(September 15, 2012 at 11:50 am)whateverist Wrote: In the absence of evidence, I'm going with the intuitive.

Our understanding comes from what affects time. Mass does. If all the matter/energy was concentrated to smaller than a sub-atomic particle, it'll cancel out the effects of time. Because pretty much, there'd be no time.

I've watched this a couple times before but it was easy to watch again. So much to think about. However I don't see how the compression of all matter to a small dot would change time. The effects of time would be nonexistent because there would be no objects to observe and no observer to observe them anyway. That is still a far cry from saying there would be no time.

Also this doesn't address my question about scale. How do we know that everything in what we call our universe that we can observe but which is visually walled off from whatever else there is or may be .. actually is all that there is? If on a larger scale there are big bang phenomena giving rise to universes like so many bubbles, then there is a before and after even to big bangs. Never mind that we don't have the longevity or perceptual powers to observe them. It could well be that our idea of a uni-verse is just a final vestige of our tendency to see ourselves as central.

Admittedly, I have no evidence for thinking there is anything beyond the extent of what we can observe but it boggles my imagination to imagine an end of space or a beginning of time. Physics tells us amazing things about what we can observe but there is no reason to overstate what we know. There no reason to conflate "what we can observe" with "all that there is" just because we have no evidence to the contrary.
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Reincarnation of the consciousness is inevitable - by automaton - September 14, 2012 at 1:22 pm
RE: Reincarnation of the consciousness is inevitable - by Whateverist - September 15, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Reincarnation of the consciousness is inevitable - by liam - September 15, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Reincarnation of the consciousness is inevitable - by Haydn - September 14, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: Reincarnation of the consciousness is inevitable - by Tobie - September 14, 2012 at 2:21 pm
RE: Reincarnation of the consciousness is inevitable - by liam - September 14, 2012 at 2:43 pm

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