Perfection!

[tackattack]

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Should I assume by your omission you're conceeding the point or merely being rude? Void has internet access issues what's your excuse?

Rude to you I cannot be. You merely have to wait your turn. No matter how eager you are to have my reply, I'll be the one that chooses to reply on what and when. I don't believe I have neglected your responses so far.

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1- the inability to apply logic? come on no need to slash at tires. You could have just as easily said those with the ability to not use logic (which indeed does include you). Dodge through personal attacks much? You can choose to attempt an unbiased approach (or at least try both sides of an arguement), but you are obviously "inable" to.. I guess the true test would be to build a sufficient AI (can only apply logic) and see if it comes up with a concept for God on it's own. Nevertheless everyone does have the potential to peer review the same aspects of God. You can even apply logic and reasoning to it, if you have the ability.

Where is the argument you're making, if you're making any?

2- The minute time of man is all anyone has to go off of for historical presuposition. The only reason you know the sun comes up is because it has for as long as man has recorded it. Anything before Man was around is assumed based of trends and statistics. Since God/ Gods have been around the time for the same time as the sun has in recorded histroy, how is it illogical to suppose it didn't exist before man? As far as ideology, as reason and science grow we are able to better make sense of our surroundings, which leads to a better grasp of the influences in our lives. The names of it have changed, the attributes of it have changed, the quantity of it has even changed, but "it" still is? savvy?
3- I think I've lost where you and Fr0d0 are so I think I'll continue to not get in the way.

The sun does not come up in a real sense. We're deluded into that idea because we're on a rotating sphere. And we have found out about it through empirical evidence and hard thinking. Not through sharing anecdotes of ancient tribes. Ancient tribes indeed professed the idea that the sun really 'comes up'.

So myths are debunked by evidence, whatever anecdotes people keep telling each other. Gods have only been around in fairy tales and myths not in evidence of any kind. And this fact alone shows that we should be critical in assuming knowledge from tribal authority. Because that is the fallacy you are making that god exists on tribal authority. So throw some bones and get to know your future.

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sorry I was on a caffine bender and now I'm home about to go to bed.

1- That your assertion of "Everyone who has the inability to apply logic has the ability you're speaking of" is just another way of saying everyone has the ability with improper qualifiers.

2- Obviously the sun doesn't come up, it's a phrase. I'll throw some bones and devine that when I wake up I'll greet my family and have some lunch and go out to eat. See how accurate that was! However it was derived from logic not in a misinterpretation of tangible objects to explain the intangible.

I'm not making a fallacy that god exists on tribal authority, I'm making the assertion that God most likely does exist based off of the relevant historical to current fixations mankind has had for a god/s throughout known histroy. I'm drawing a metaphor to the sun because I also assert that for all of mankings known history the sun has been there with us rotating around it, giving the appearance of the sun rising.