Hello, i am a real Christian

[Paul the Human]

(EDIT: I type this up before I realized there had been other replies, so some of what I say has already been said. But here it is, nonetheless.)

Hello all

Hi, True Christian… and welcome.

I believe that the vast majority of the Old Testament is non-factual. I believe fully in evolution, even though i think God intended our evolution from apes, in such a way as to do it according to the rules of nature. I do believe for example in Moses and the flee from Egypt, as a historical event and not with the magic bread, crossing of the red sea or the cloud of ash that showed them the way. However Noah's Ark, Adam and Eve, the man who lived 3 days inside of a whale, are all stories that could be compared with mythologies like the Greek one.

But i am a real christian in that i believe, according to the tales of the Gospels, that Jesus is the Son of God, performed miracles, and was resurrected. He had a message of peace and understanding for all of mankind, and unlike the tales of the Old Testament, in the teachings of Jesus no one is beyond redemption.

That does, indeed, sound like the things believed by most Christians I have spoken with. Just like them, you are guilty of picking and choosing which thing to believe and which things to dismiss in the gospel of your own religion. Moses couldn’t possibly have ‘parted the red sea’, but Jesus was surely the miracle performing son of god. Why do you think one is more believable than the other?

I do not condemn non-believers or believers in other religions to an eternity in Hell, i just think they havnt had the luck i had, which is to see the beautiful message of the Christ.

That’s nice of you. Your god, on the other hand, is not so understanding. Lucky for me, it’s just a fairytale/horror story.

I see atheists as people who are disillusioned view of religion and who do not know what or who to believe, so they just reject God altogether. I can understand easily how people can be disgusted by religion. Terrorism, discrimination, pedophilia. But all of those wrongs that religion has done...are not exclusive to religion, far from it. Most of the time, "religious" genocides have for goal to find a scapegoat to appease the population, nothing more.

Really? Is that how ‘you see atheists’? If so, you haven’t spoken with many of them. I’d say most of us do not believe that god(s) exist, because we have never been given a rational reason to. We have been given uncountable reasons not to, though. We find the most likely and most logical conclusion to be inescapable… even if you are apologetic about all of the atrocities that organized religion has committed in the name it god.

What's more religion has undeniably done some good in the world. It has united nations, given people a set of moral values that are good for the well-being of society. For hundreds of years most of the education and medicine was practiced by the Church. Finally most organizations that help the poor sick or homeless are originally Christian.

No one can say that ‘religion has never done anything good’, but that does not make god real. It also doesn’t erase all of the atrocities committed by religion throughout history and today.

I am not here to convert you all, just to remind you that religion is not as harmful as you seem to think.

*points to the picture that Min posted above*