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This really got to me
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This really got to me
I can't post a link yet but it's something I heard in the Seth Andrews "The Thinking Atheist" podcast, the episode where the topic was "Psychoanalyzing God" (this is the only context in which I will ever deign to capitalize that hateful word, and it kills me even now to do it).

So, this preacher calls in to the show and they get on the topic of god communicating clearly to his creation if he wanted them all to be able to understand how to worship properly and that his failure to do so is the reason things are so fucked up.

The preacher said something that made me literally want to vomit in disgust at his stupidity. He said that god communicating his message clearly to every one of his creations would violate their free will.

What. The. Fucking. Fuck.

This whole free will thing already drives me up the wall, but dragging the clarity of a religion's message and its portrayal of its deity into it just destroys it. But when Seth tried to explain to this preacher that free will has less than nothing to do with the clarity of the means of communication between a creator and its creation. The preacher could scarcely have reacted differently than Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel. He literally did not understand how this could be. He literally could not see this thing that I could have pointed out in the first grade.

Someone please tell me I'm not deluded for thinking that religion genuinely decreases intelligence. Please. I'm willing to be a hypocrite and accept something that isn't true at this point as long as it keeps me from crying myself to sleep with how pathetic our species is capable of being.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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This really got to me - by Astonished - January 3, 2017 at 11:54 pm
RE: This really got to me - by robvalue - January 4, 2017 at 12:55 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:15 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 4, 2017 at 5:01 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 5, 2017 at 7:23 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 9, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 10, 2017 at 6:18 am
RE: This really got to me - by Minimalist - January 4, 2017 at 1:40 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:42 am
RE: This really got to me - by Minimalist - January 4, 2017 at 1:44 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 4, 2017 at 2:04 am
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 4, 2017 at 6:34 am
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 4, 2017 at 4:35 pm
RE: This really got to me - by 21stCenturyIconoclast - January 4, 2017 at 5:15 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Angrboda - January 4, 2017 at 7:18 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 5, 2017 at 12:54 am
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 6, 2017 at 8:07 am
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 6, 2017 at 11:45 am
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 6, 2017 at 7:47 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 21, 2017 at 8:12 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 2:08 am
RE: This really got to me - by Drich - January 4, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: This really got to me - by 21stCenturyIconoclast - January 4, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: This really got to me - by TheoneandonlytrueGod - January 24, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Redoubtable - January 4, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Drich - January 4, 2017 at 5:42 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 6:24 pm
RE: This really got to me - by 21stCenturyIconoclast - January 5, 2017 at 5:13 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 6, 2017 at 2:37 am
RE: This really got to me - by Faith No More - January 4, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Godschild - January 4, 2017 at 6:24 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Cyberman - January 4, 2017 at 10:08 pm
This really got to me - by LadyForCamus - January 4, 2017 at 10:46 pm
RE: This really got to me - by chimp3 - January 10, 2017 at 6:31 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 11, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 18, 2017 at 1:20 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 18, 2017 at 9:55 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 19, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 20, 2017 at 10:28 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 23, 2017 at 9:33 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 24, 2017 at 9:33 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 27, 2017 at 1:39 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 27, 2017 at 4:17 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 27, 2017 at 11:59 am
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 28, 2017 at 10:33 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 28, 2017 at 11:19 am
RE: This really got to me - by Homeless Nutter - January 28, 2017 at 11:54 am
RE: This really got to me - by Astonished - January 28, 2017 at 2:34 pm
RE: This really got to me - by Little Rik - January 29, 2017 at 10:51 am
RE: This really got to me - by ignoramus - January 20, 2017 at 1:23 am
RE: This really got to me - by AceBoogie - January 20, 2017 at 11:11 am
RE: This really got to me - by The Wise Joker - January 29, 2017 at 4:37 pm

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