RE: Moral Acts
January 11, 2017 at 3:38 pm
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2017 at 3:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 11, 2017 at 3:11 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Why not if they are motivated by their religious beliefs?Because their religious beliefs didn't do the work, and are not required to have done the work......? All the faithing in the world achieves exactly nothing.
Quote:As have all the dictators and tyrants throughout history. Crime does pay, if you are clever enough not to get caught.Some people take that risk, though, you did just call them tyrants and dictators...and it;s not like they got to take their gold with them when they kicked it, if they managed to keep it till then. Seems to me that the end result isn't all that advantageous......but I have a pretty strong moral bent, so, mileage may vary.
Quote:Might makes right IS the justification.We use those terms differently, I suppose. Do you feel that slavery is justified by might?
Quote:Only since the industrial revolution. In the 200,000 years prior to that, history shows that slavery, serfdom, and indentured service were universally practiced.You explained fairly easily why. I don't own any of my fieldhands, they don't operate equipment. This work -never- required slavery.
Quote:Yes, because the 14-year old girl is fertile and the old woman is past child bearing years.So, is that the only metric of value for women? Sounds more abrahamic than secular or naturalistic, to me, lol.
Quote:In a pinch? Absolutely, right. Your own intuition reveals that human beings instinctively favor, however slightly, the healthy and fertile.I was going more for youth over age when death is on the line, horndog.
Quote:Is that evolved instinct a valid basis for any moral principle?Not any moral principle of mine.
Quote:I have yet to see a naturalistic explanation for why Mankind should not take evolution into its own hands and practice eugenics.Really..........? You;ve never seen anyone mention that supporting eugenics might, oh, idk, backfire on the supporters?
Quote: Why is it wrong to terminate the mentally disabled, crippled, and/or terminally ill?If for no other reason, because you do not want to die in such a way, and might find yourself counted among them. Honestly, when you ask questions like this it makes me doubt not only your basic humanity, but your mind. I get that you think god has given you reason not to do these things...but i that the only reason you have? If there were no god to give you those reasons you'd be plum out of reasons......?
Quote:Why would it be wrong to intentionally divert resources to benefit of those deemed genetically superior to others? Remember, it's cheating to appeal to anything outside evolved instinct or practical advantages.If intelligence has a genetic component, then we already do. Personally, I prefer to push resources towards performance. I've seen naturally gifted people squander their abilities and hard workers overcome their limitations. Not sure how this is a moral issue, though?
Quote:Yes, we care. But why do we care? Why should we care?That's a non-issue for morality, Neo. Whether or not we should care, or whether or not our reasons for caring are true or accurate in any sense are not required for a moral system to exist or be practical. If your god doesn't exist, for example, it hardly matters in light of your moral stance against killing the weak. You care, that's enough to keep you from doing it, until you stop believing, I guess....unless you have other reasons yourself and all of these questions were idiotic posturing?
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