Quote:Ok, let me rephrase that, solja easily dismisses any argument that science or we have provided in this forum all this time, if it goes against the possibility of a god(specially the yaweh one), but a random claim from statler he finds it 'fascinating' just because it somewhat supports his belief...
How does Statler support my belief? I just thought it was fascinating as I have never really believed in the whole 'everything came from a common ancestor'
How did the protista evolve? What was their ancestor? It makes a lot more sense having a couple/several family lineages.
Quote:What about all the science that points to the first lifeforms not being complex at all?
Archaea is still complicated. Sure it is not as complicated as eukaryotic cells but pirimitive lifeforms are still really complicated.
Quote:He didn't know how evolution was nonrandom, but deemed himself to know enough to assert organisms were too complex to form through evolution. He says philosophy is superior to science because it allows him to assert what must be, but exhibit a total unawareness that science is the most productive field of philosophy there ever was. Sol has the Sol style, and Statler has the statler style.
Evolution and abiogenesis are two differnet things.
Evolution is not random. Mutations are random, Some of the beneficial random mutations can lead to becoming the dominant genes in the species (thus over a series of generations it becomes the dominant genes in X). Name one case where evolution is random?
I will name one which isnt.
There are flying insects on a particular island, for some reason the island has a lot more wind than ussual. The insects which fly around are swept out to sea. For some reason there is a minority of these flying insects which have lost their ability to use their wings (a mutation). These minority become the dominant, as they are able to survive. The insects became the dominant, not by chance, but because they were the strongest to survive.
Also, Science is not philosophy.
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.
You dont hate God, you hate the church game.
"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine
Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
You dont hate God, you hate the church game.
"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine
Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
