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God's Child(ren)?
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RE: God's Child(ren)?
Quote:Still his mother's side. But as others have explained, the early Christians were desperate to show a genealogical link between their messiah and David, otherwise they would have not got many converts and the OT says he would be of the line of David. Still, the whole virgin birth story was probably invented by Mary to cover up the fact that she was shagging the milkman while Joseph was at work. Joseph: "You're pregnant!" Mary (thinking quickly): "Yes, it was God who did it!" In those days the penalty for a women getting pregnant to a man other than her husband was I understand a little more harsh than a slap on the wrist.

Nope. The two geneaologies do not have to be litteral. Mathew is showing that Jews is a Jew, in fact He is related to David and many other kings. Sometimes you have to think about the principle, rather than thinking it has to be 100% true.
Luke is showing that Jesus is also a human, like them. Luke's gosphel is about showing that Jesus is a servant.

Quote:The early OT, especially the Genesis and Exodus, was based on earlier religions. Sorry Christians, but your religion was based on Judiasm and the early Hebrew religion was based off older religions, where Yahweh was but a minor god in a large pantheon comprising something like 50 demi-gods (the sons of Ur). Later the evolving Jewish religion associated Yahweh with Ur and effectively replaced him.

Nope. Jews have some very distinct things about themselves. For example not eating pigs or farming them and the sabbath. There are some similarities and some differences.

Quote:As the OT books were written they introduced the concept of a messiah who would be the son of god (Yahweh by now, having evolved from the earlier demi-god and Elohim). After the death of Jesus (either as an actual person or a collection of stories about some preacher or preachers that became the story of Jesus) some of the early groups of Christianity wanted not only to make the Jesus figure the messiah, but also the son of Yahweh. So, they promoted him to being the son of God and accepting the books where this view was promoted and dismissing those that presented him as a mortal messiah as being heretical. There were groups of Christians who did not take this view, but I would presume the group who were saying "our messiah is the son of God" got better reviews and ratings than those who were saying "our messiah is a mortal". Hence this laid the foundations for the modern version of Christianity.

Do you know what you are talking about?
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.

You dont hate God, you hate the church game.

"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine

Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
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God's Child(ren)? - by Jonah - October 27, 2010 at 3:31 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by thesummerqueen - October 27, 2010 at 3:42 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Jonah - October 27, 2010 at 3:55 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by thesummerqueen - October 27, 2010 at 4:05 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - October 27, 2010 at 4:06 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Jonah - October 27, 2010 at 5:12 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - October 27, 2010 at 5:51 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Jonah - October 27, 2010 at 6:01 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Anomalocaris - October 27, 2010 at 6:08 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theophilus - October 28, 2010 at 3:01 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theVOID - October 28, 2010 at 3:45 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Jonah - October 28, 2010 at 6:22 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - October 27, 2010 at 6:57 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by padraic - October 29, 2010 at 4:52 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Jonah - October 29, 2010 at 8:32 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theophilus - October 30, 2010 at 12:41 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by thesummerqueen - October 27, 2010 at 7:18 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Jonah - October 27, 2010 at 9:40 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Rayaan - October 28, 2010 at 2:19 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Ashendant - October 30, 2010 at 8:35 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theVOID - October 28, 2010 at 3:45 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2010 at 4:57 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by ib.me.ub - October 28, 2010 at 4:17 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theVOID - October 28, 2010 at 3:29 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Darwinian - October 28, 2010 at 5:40 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by downbeatplumb - October 28, 2010 at 5:56 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - October 28, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Jonah - October 28, 2010 at 10:29 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theophilus - October 29, 2010 at 2:38 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - October 29, 2010 at 3:31 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - October 29, 2010 at 9:25 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Anomalocaris - October 29, 2010 at 11:49 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - October 30, 2010 at 12:17 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Godschild - October 30, 2010 at 12:01 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - October 30, 2010 at 8:40 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theophilus - November 2, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - November 2, 2010 at 1:38 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theophilus - November 3, 2010 at 11:50 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Godschild - November 4, 2010 at 10:59 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - November 3, 2010 at 12:04 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by solja247 - November 4, 2010 at 11:13 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by thesummerqueen - November 4, 2010 at 11:27 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by solja247 - November 5, 2010 at 12:17 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Loki_999 - November 5, 2010 at 3:43 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theophilus - November 9, 2010 at 1:04 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by solja247 - November 5, 2010 at 4:13 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Anomalocaris - November 9, 2010 at 1:23 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - November 9, 2010 at 1:40 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Godschild - November 9, 2010 at 11:43 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by thesummerqueen - November 10, 2010 at 12:33 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Godschild - November 10, 2010 at 1:00 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by DeistPaladin - November 9, 2010 at 1:58 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Loki_999 - November 9, 2010 at 4:57 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theophilus - November 11, 2010 at 3:04 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by downbeatplumb - November 11, 2010 at 3:20 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Loki_999 - November 12, 2010 at 2:26 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theophilus - November 12, 2010 at 4:15 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Loki_999 - November 13, 2010 at 2:38 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Godschild - November 15, 2010 at 12:14 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2010 at 3:23 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Godschild - November 15, 2010 at 12:26 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2010 at 1:24 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Godschild - November 15, 2010 at 5:51 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Jaysyn - November 16, 2010 at 3:07 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Lethe - November 17, 2010 at 3:37 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by DeistPaladin - November 16, 2010 at 5:01 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by theophilus - November 17, 2010 at 2:12 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Strongbad - November 17, 2010 at 3:56 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Loki_999 - November 18, 2010 at 4:33 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Minimalist - November 10, 2010 at 1:07 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Loki_999 - November 10, 2010 at 2:59 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by God - November 10, 2010 at 3:29 am
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 12:39 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2010 at 2:01 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Lethe - November 11, 2010 at 4:15 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2010 at 4:22 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by thesummerqueen - November 12, 2010 at 4:45 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2010 at 4:52 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by thesummerqueen - November 12, 2010 at 4:56 pm
RE: God's Child(ren)? - by Loki_999 - November 15, 2010 at 2:34 am

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