(November 22, 2017 at 5:47 am)Godscreated Wrote:(November 20, 2017 at 4:13 pm)possibletarian Wrote: Funny you use the word deluded that's pretty much what I became to think of believers, and yes as a believer I was deluded, and again you don't answer my question.
I'm not interested in lies, I'm interested in what can be proven to be true, why do you think it's the truth, I mean beyond an assertion ?
And what measures have you taken to prove it's truth? If it's something you simply believe, or believe simply, then say so.
I live in a relationship with God and I see Him working in and through my life. The proof is for me not you, and you will most likely never get the kinda' proof you want because God deals with us through faith. Abraham was called righteous by God because he trust what God told him (faith). This is what God asks of us and then if we desire that deeper relationship with Him he will reveal truths to us that will only make sense to those who have trusted Him. Your rejection of Christ has left you outside in the cold with no understanding and until you decide to trust God through faith you will remain outside. Abraham trusted God in many things without question and was rewarded greatly all God ask you to do is trust in Jesus and you will receive a reward greater than anyone can imagine. Like I've said many time on this forum, first faith then belief and then knowledge, it's God's promise to His people.
GC
How many words can GC redefine? there's righteous, proof, reject, relationship...I probably missed a couple.
I can imagine vastly great rewards. But I won't make myself believe a load of crap to get them. Some of us have standards.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam
