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Just because She's Topless
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RE: Just because She's Topless
(January 3, 2018 at 12:34 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I think that there is more of a disconnect than I previously thought.  What do you mean in the instance between objective and subjective?  (I don't think you really understand the terms.)

It seems that most of your response is saying "duh, sexual assault is wrong" but doesn't ground it in your foundation of harm (and I don't think objectively at all).  You seem to be avoiding the issue.  Why is it harmful?    If every time someone feels emotional or psychological distress, they punched someone, don't you think that would be harmful to society?
I'm not interested in arguing with you over whether or not sexual assault is objectively harmful.  I assume you have access to all of the information on the subject that I have...and also that you really wouldn't need any of it to recognize that it is harmful.  Just imagining me grabbing your crank in a world full of men who also grab your crank should suffice.

Like I said, if you're comfortable pulling the "is sexual assault really objectively harmful" routine..then you do you.  

Quote:Something similar to what happened in the video, seriously wouldn't bother me that much.  I would probably think it was funny.  Although I could see becoming quickly uncomfortable and stopping them for something more sustained.  Even then, I don't think I would be scarred, or seek out physical damage to the person (except in self defense perhaps).

And again, I'm not saying that sexual assault is not wrong.  But you still seem to be avoiding identifying the objective harm you keep talking about.
If you say so.  But who cares whether you're more comfortable being groped or less violent in your response to being groped than she was?  You;re virtue signaling against a victim of sexual assault, at this point, while questioning the reality of harm caused by sex crimes..and it's fucking hilarious.

Quote:Not what I asked.... the two things that I asked, physically and objectively could be very... very similar.  The main difference is intent.
That's not really the "main difference" between sex crime and stumbling, but sure, it's -a- difference.
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Just because She's Topless - by chimp3 - January 3, 2018 at 8:10 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by vorlon13 - January 3, 2018 at 8:19 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by chimp3 - January 3, 2018 at 8:22 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by vorlon13 - January 3, 2018 at 8:25 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 3, 2018 at 8:37 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Whateverist - January 3, 2018 at 8:42 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Aoi Magi - January 3, 2018 at 9:17 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 3, 2018 at 9:36 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Aoi Magi - January 3, 2018 at 9:53 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 3, 2018 at 10:30 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Little lunch - January 3, 2018 at 10:00 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Aoi Magi - January 3, 2018 at 10:09 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Tiberius - January 4, 2018 at 12:03 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Aoi Magi - January 4, 2018 at 4:29 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 4, 2018 at 4:41 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 3, 2018 at 9:47 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 3, 2018 at 10:18 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Whateverist - January 3, 2018 at 10:51 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 3, 2018 at 10:45 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 3, 2018 at 11:05 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Whateverist - January 3, 2018 at 11:08 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 3, 2018 at 11:26 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 3, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Ravenshire - January 3, 2018 at 3:21 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2018 at 11:22 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 3, 2018 at 11:32 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 3, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 3, 2018 at 1:01 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Edwardo Piet - January 3, 2018 at 6:54 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2018 at 11:34 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2018 at 11:47 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 3, 2018 at 11:56 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Whateverist - January 3, 2018 at 1:14 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 3, 2018 at 2:23 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by possibletarian - January 3, 2018 at 11:58 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Mermaid - January 3, 2018 at 12:00 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by SaStrike - January 3, 2018 at 5:51 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Mermaid - January 3, 2018 at 6:30 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by SaStrike - January 3, 2018 at 7:31 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 3, 2018 at 7:33 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Mermaid - January 3, 2018 at 7:50 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by SaStrike - January 3, 2018 at 8:00 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Jackalope - January 3, 2018 at 7:57 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Catholic_Lady - January 5, 2018 at 12:17 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by CapnAwesome - January 5, 2018 at 12:21 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by polymath257 - January 5, 2018 at 12:28 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 5, 2018 at 5:21 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2018 at 12:07 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 3, 2018 at 12:34 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2018 at 12:45 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 3, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2018 at 1:13 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 3, 2018 at 1:14 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 3, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 3, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2018 at 1:36 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 3, 2018 at 2:32 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2018 at 3:18 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 3, 2018 at 3:41 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2018 at 3:43 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Industrial Atheist - January 3, 2018 at 5:16 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 3, 2018 at 5:49 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by chimp3 - January 3, 2018 at 9:12 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2018 at 9:21 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Seraphina - January 3, 2018 at 11:36 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Fireball - January 3, 2018 at 11:58 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Seraphina - January 4, 2018 at 12:03 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by LadyForCamus - January 4, 2018 at 12:10 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by paulpablo - January 4, 2018 at 12:13 am
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RE: Just because She's Topless - by paulpablo - January 4, 2018 at 12:42 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2018 at 12:55 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by paulpablo - January 4, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by paulpablo - January 4, 2018 at 1:11 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Edwardo Piet - January 4, 2018 at 2:41 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by paulpablo - January 4, 2018 at 3:07 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2018 at 4:48 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 4, 2018 at 1:48 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by ErGingerbreadMandude - January 4, 2018 at 7:14 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Aroura - January 4, 2018 at 7:19 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 4, 2018 at 7:21 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 10:42 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 4, 2018 at 6:48 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 10:55 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by CapnAwesome - January 4, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 4, 2018 at 1:45 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by CapnAwesome - January 4, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 4, 2018 at 3:19 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 11:20 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by CapnAwesome - January 4, 2018 at 11:29 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Aroura - January 4, 2018 at 11:50 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by CapnAwesome - January 4, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Mermaid - January 4, 2018 at 1:22 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by CapnAwesome - January 5, 2018 at 12:07 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 5, 2018 at 4:00 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 11:38 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2018 at 11:40 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 11:45 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2018 at 12:49 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 12:04 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Tiberius - January 4, 2018 at 12:08 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 12:08 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Tiberius - January 4, 2018 at 12:09 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 12:11 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Tiberius - January 4, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 12:18 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Tiberius - January 4, 2018 at 12:24 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 12:31 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Tiberius - January 4, 2018 at 12:44 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Mermaid - January 4, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 2:37 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 4, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by downbeatplumb - January 5, 2018 at 3:09 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Tiberius - January 4, 2018 at 4:54 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Aoi Magi - January 4, 2018 at 5:23 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 4, 2018 at 6:04 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Aoi Magi - January 4, 2018 at 6:07 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 4, 2018 at 7:46 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Tiberius - January 4, 2018 at 7:48 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by SaStrike - January 4, 2018 at 4:55 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2018 at 6:25 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2018 at 12:24 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 5:01 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 5:33 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 4, 2018 at 6:37 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 7:01 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 4, 2018 at 7:09 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 7:10 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 4, 2018 at 7:50 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 4, 2018 at 7:49 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 10:21 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by brewer - January 4, 2018 at 10:42 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by polymath257 - January 4, 2018 at 10:55 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by RoadRunner79 - January 4, 2018 at 11:01 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Fireball - January 4, 2018 at 11:38 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 10:43 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by brewer - January 5, 2018 at 4:04 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Catholic_Lady - January 5, 2018 at 12:30 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by polymath257 - January 5, 2018 at 12:34 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Thumpalumpacus - January 5, 2018 at 3:29 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Mermaid - January 5, 2018 at 3:30 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Catholic_Lady - January 5, 2018 at 3:32 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Thumpalumpacus - January 5, 2018 at 9:45 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 5, 2018 at 9:56 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by polymath257 - January 5, 2018 at 10:56 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Fireball - January 6, 2018 at 12:40 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Anomalocaris - January 6, 2018 at 2:25 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Thumpalumpacus - January 6, 2018 at 9:45 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Shell B - January 5, 2018 at 12:39 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by CapnAwesome - January 5, 2018 at 9:33 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by ErGingerbreadMandude - January 5, 2018 at 1:13 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 5, 2018 at 9:41 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 8, 2018 at 12:11 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Fireball - January 8, 2018 at 12:26 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 8, 2018 at 1:57 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Thumpalumpacus - January 8, 2018 at 11:16 am
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 8, 2018 at 4:30 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Thumpalumpacus - January 8, 2018 at 9:28 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by Haipule - January 8, 2018 at 10:24 pm
RE: Just because She's Topless - by The Valkyrie - January 8, 2018 at 2:28 am

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