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Madeiline McCann coverup
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RE: Madeiline McCann coverup
(October 24, 2018 at 10:07 am)Tiberius Wrote: I wouldn't call it criminal. That's the same kind of reasoning people use to victim-blame rape victims. No parent leaves their kids alone in a hotel room thinking they might be kidnapped.



Just to highlight here, that I think this, regardless of how it's happened, this is FAR different from the quotes above. Disclaimer: I do not advocate that mind set when it comes to rape, of any person, be it male or female.

In this case, a kidnap has supposedly occurred, on an unguarded house with unlocked doors. Correct, nobody ever WANTS that to happen nor would you rationally expect it, but it's the very same as leaving your house unlocked and being surprised if it's burgled. It's not 1935 any more, and very few people actually leave their doors unlocked at any time, let alone at night, and when nobody is there. It's VERY different to suggesting the above quotes. People KNOW for a fact, the world is dangerous and when you have kids especially, you want them to be as safe as can be. Not alone, unguarded in an unlocked room 180ft away, not in line of sight. 

Add into that, that they are in a foreign country where crime statistics will be different, and they have most likely little/no knowledge of the level of crime in that particular area or even in the building (from researching, I believe that building alone had a few break in's during the month prior), which yeah they wouldn't know that, but you would want to think that they would at least fucking prep for it in some manner. Simply just stay in the hotel room. Yeah, it's a dampener on the evening, but you have children, which take a higher priority than getting drunk with your friends really.

When booking the room, try to find two rooms that join together [via the middle door] and place the kids in the other room, with ALL OTHER DOORS/WINDOWS LOCKED, that way if the kids get up, they know where you AND you can hear into the room next door, should something be forcefully opened. The point being is, yeah nobody in their right mind thinks it will happen to them, but the shit does happen all the time, and to least your kids, [3 kids as well], ALONE in a room that has doors open which anybody walking past could open (be it stranger, burgler, sexual deviant, any form of person good or bad) and you're fairly far away, completely out of eye sight of the room itself as well......again to me, that's INSANE. 

People wanting to burgle houses, often try every single door on a street/property (if they have access to do that), so maybe this was a burglary gone very wrong as the kid woke up. Maybe it was planned from the kidnappers point of view, IE they scouted them out, waited for the parents to leave etc. That still doesn't rule out that the girl may have simply gotten up at night, like kids do at random times, and just walk out into the night looking for her parents, who were well out of a visible line of sight for her. 

My point is, things would have been 100% different if the parents where WITH there three kids, who they left ALONE in a room with open doors. Kidnap or kids leaving by themselves, either option is CRAZY. Comparing this to victim blaming rape victims is ludicrous. I'm not saying they deserve it because the doors were open, it's just fucking common sense. You don't leave you house open at night in areas of high crime. You don't leave your car unlocked with valuables inside on show. I'm saying that they made some terrible decisions, and are paying for it now.
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Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 24, 2018 at 12:22 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Foxaèr - October 24, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by pgrimes15 - October 24, 2018 at 6:11 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Foxaèr - October 24, 2018 at 6:13 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 24, 2018 at 6:52 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 24, 2018 at 12:34 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 24, 2018 at 1:05 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 24, 2018 at 1:45 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 24, 2018 at 2:24 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Cod - October 24, 2018 at 3:03 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by I_am_not_mafia - October 24, 2018 at 3:04 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by OakTree500 - October 24, 2018 at 5:09 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 24, 2018 at 5:39 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by pgrimes15 - October 24, 2018 at 6:33 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by I_am_not_mafia - October 24, 2018 at 7:17 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Foxaèr - October 24, 2018 at 7:20 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 24, 2018 at 7:49 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 24, 2018 at 8:22 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by OakTree500 - October 24, 2018 at 9:19 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 24, 2018 at 9:38 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 24, 2018 at 9:39 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 24, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by OakTree500 - October 24, 2018 at 10:01 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Foxaèr - October 24, 2018 at 10:07 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 24, 2018 at 10:07 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by OakTree500 - October 24, 2018 at 11:05 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 24, 2018 at 10:29 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 24, 2018 at 10:38 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 24, 2018 at 12:23 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 25, 2018 at 4:56 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by OakTree500 - October 25, 2018 at 5:38 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 25, 2018 at 9:58 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by OakTree500 - October 25, 2018 at 11:07 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Losty - October 25, 2018 at 2:29 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 25, 2018 at 10:15 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - October 25, 2018 at 10:19 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - October 25, 2018 at 11:38 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Angrboda - October 25, 2018 at 12:37 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Losty - October 25, 2018 at 2:08 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 25, 2018 at 5:46 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 25, 2018 at 5:18 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 25, 2018 at 5:26 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - October 25, 2018 at 9:09 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 25, 2018 at 5:36 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Cod - October 25, 2018 at 5:39 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 25, 2018 at 5:48 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 25, 2018 at 6:04 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 26, 2018 at 11:16 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 26, 2018 at 11:30 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 26, 2018 at 4:16 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 26, 2018 at 5:57 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by OakTree500 - October 26, 2018 at 6:04 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 26, 2018 at 6:08 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 26, 2018 at 8:22 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 26, 2018 at 9:24 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 26, 2018 at 11:24 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 26, 2018 at 10:34 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - October 26, 2018 at 11:30 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 28, 2018 at 8:02 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 28, 2018 at 9:44 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Foxaèr - October 28, 2018 at 9:45 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Angrboda - October 28, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 28, 2018 at 10:14 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - October 28, 2018 at 7:21 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 28, 2018 at 8:47 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 28, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Foxaèr - October 28, 2018 at 9:51 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 28, 2018 at 11:18 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 28, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 28, 2018 at 1:18 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 28, 2018 at 3:29 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 28, 2018 at 4:38 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 28, 2018 at 5:07 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Jello - October 28, 2018 at 6:43 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 28, 2018 at 6:48 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Seraphina - October 28, 2018 at 7:08 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Minimalist - October 28, 2018 at 8:54 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 29, 2018 at 2:39 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 29, 2018 at 6:04 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - October 29, 2018 at 11:27 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by SaStrike - October 29, 2018 at 11:34 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 29, 2018 at 11:41 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by SaStrike - October 30, 2018 at 1:30 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 30, 2018 at 1:33 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 30, 2018 at 12:40 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 30, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - October 30, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 31, 2018 at 4:30 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by downbeatplumb - October 31, 2018 at 4:33 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 31, 2018 at 5:19 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 31, 2018 at 9:04 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 31, 2018 at 1:30 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - October 31, 2018 at 1:39 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - October 31, 2018 at 1:44 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 31, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - October 31, 2018 at 2:10 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Deesse23 - October 31, 2018 at 2:33 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 31, 2018 at 3:14 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 31, 2018 at 3:15 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 31, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 31, 2018 at 3:22 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 31, 2018 at 3:28 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 31, 2018 at 3:29 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - October 31, 2018 at 4:01 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - October 31, 2018 at 4:08 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - October 31, 2018 at 4:16 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Cod - October 31, 2018 at 4:18 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - November 1, 2018 at 4:51 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by downbeatplumb - November 1, 2018 at 5:21 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - November 1, 2018 at 6:01 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - November 1, 2018 at 7:50 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - November 1, 2018 at 9:28 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by DodosAreDead - November 1, 2018 at 9:41 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - November 4, 2018 at 11:19 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by adey67 - November 4, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - November 6, 2018 at 11:00 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Angrboda - November 4, 2018 at 11:56 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - November 4, 2018 at 12:01 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - November 4, 2018 at 4:46 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - November 6, 2018 at 6:36 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - November 6, 2018 at 11:14 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by robvalue - November 6, 2018 at 11:36 am
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LastPoet - November 6, 2018 at 2:44 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - November 6, 2018 at 12:07 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Shell B - November 6, 2018 at 12:09 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Grandizer - November 6, 2018 at 12:25 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by downbeatplumb - November 6, 2018 at 2:02 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by CapnAwesome - November 6, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by Tiberius - November 6, 2018 at 4:02 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by CapnAwesome - November 6, 2018 at 5:18 pm
RE: Madeiline McCann coverup - by LadyForCamus - November 6, 2018 at 4:11 pm
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