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Musings about omnipotence and perfection.
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RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection.
DoubtVsFaith Wrote:Everything is logically possible. Nothing is logically impossible. A logically impossible thing is not a thing, it's nothing. So for omnipotence to be able to do everything is identical to it being able to do everything possible.

You can have illogical statements but that is a different definition of the word 'illogical'. That is illogical in the sense of 'logically contradictory' and not illogical in the sense of 'not logical'. Nothing that is truly non-logical can exist. A logical contradiction can exist because it's a logical contradiction and not an illogical contradiction. We must not equivocate the definition of illogical to mean 'logically contradictory' with the definition of illogical to mean 'not logical'. Something that is wholly not logical is something that is ultimately not tautological either and thereby contradicts its own definition and can't exist. A statement that is 'illogical' in the sense of 'logically contradictory' can exist because the statement isn't impossible it is merely what it refers to that is impossible.

Nothing can truly be non-illogical and exist. That's why we speak of logical contradictions and not illogical contradictions.
I agree with your points. And my conclusion to that is no one can be omnipotent even if it has unlimited power. Because omnipotence means being able to do everything with no exception..
Lets take casting spells for example, normally it has no explaination, its just magic. therefor its illogical. But if there was an explaination of magic( rules etc,) then it would be logically possible but it would require knowledge and power to do it. That means there must be explanations of the actions of a so called omniponent being. And it contradicts with being omnipotent, for it can't do anything that can't be explained... So one can't never be omnipotent even if it has limitless power.
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Edwardo Piet - January 18, 2011 at 6:22 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Ashendant - January 18, 2011 at 6:30 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Darwinian - January 18, 2011 at 6:31 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Watson - January 21, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by theVOID - February 8, 2011 at 9:19 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Watson - January 21, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Watson - January 23, 2011 at 4:09 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by FadingW - January 22, 2011 at 7:44 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Ryft - January 29, 2011 at 10:43 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Ryft - January 30, 2011 at 10:33 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Minimalist - January 30, 2011 at 11:42 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by annatar - January 30, 2011 at 1:04 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by annatar - February 1, 2011 at 7:27 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Rwandrall - February 4, 2011 at 8:18 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Ryft - February 5, 2011 at 11:30 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Rayaan - February 7, 2011 at 3:36 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Ryft - February 8, 2011 at 3:00 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by theVOID - February 8, 2011 at 10:34 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Ryft - February 9, 2011 at 1:09 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by theVOID - February 9, 2011 at 4:12 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Ryft - February 10, 2011 at 4:19 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by theVOID - February 15, 2011 at 8:08 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Godschild - February 14, 2011 at 11:45 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Speakeasy - February 15, 2011 at 12:29 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Speakeasy - February 15, 2011 at 4:22 am
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Rayaan - February 15, 2011 at 2:03 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by Watson - February 15, 2011 at 7:12 pm
RE: Musings about omnipotence and perfection. - by theVOID - February 16, 2011 at 5:48 pm

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