Sharia law anyone?

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 I accept that Wyzas made his list in good faith. 

I also accept that your answers are technically correct, in terms of what is written in the Q'uran an Hadith.

However, those answers do not necessarily reflect reality. I'l mention just a few of things I know to be true having lived in the country concerned , which has its own religious police.(Malaysia) . 

In Malaysia it is a criminal offence:

To try to convert a Muslim to another faith.

To offer alcohol to a Muslim

For a Muslim to be found eating or drinking in public during daylight ours of Ramadan.

For a Muslim to deny his faith; 2 years in prison.

In divorce, in Malaysia, the children ALWAYS go to the father

Ah yes, when I was there, women wore neither hijab nor burqa.

I have only read  in newspaper of women who were raped being arrested for adultery. I have no problem believing that would happen in say Pakistan, or perhaps Afghanistan.

As for other extreme punishments. I accept that they are not written law. Also accept that they almost certainly happen.

However, I am also aware that some of the more extreme customs are tribal, predating Islam by centuries. Two examples ;female circumcision. A barbaric tribal custom, I think.  Also, customs of extreme modesty, such as the burqa and niqab. As far as I know, that's not quite what the Q'uran says;


In the Quran, God says, “And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms…” (24:31)

I think perhaps the perceptions of Islam held by many non Muslims are based on the excessive conservatism of the Wahhabi in Saudi Arabia. Plus of course,  those ignorant and pathetic individuals who have been  taught in some perverted madrassa that is a  great thing to murder innocents, even though this is banned in the Q'uran

Islam is portrayed as a religion of “terror” and “killing”, yet this is just one of the most widely held misconceptions about Islam. Allah Almighty states unambiguously in the Quran (what means): "Nor take life -- which Allah has made sacred -- except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand retaliation or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life, for he is helped (by the Law)." [Quran 17:33]

http://www.islamweb.net/en/article/113432/islam-does-not-tolerate-the-killing-of-innocents

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 Face veils:

The burqa and other types of face veils have been attested since pre-Islamic times, in particular among Pashtun and Arab women. Face veiling has not been regarded as a religious requirement by most Islamic scholars, past or present. However, some scholars, especially those belonging to the Salafi movement, view it as obligatory for women in the presence of non-related males. Women may wear the burqa for a number of reasons, including compulsion, as was the case in Afghanistan during Taliban rule. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa

Malaysia is one of the few Muslim countries -if not the only besides Turkey and Qatar- that has a respect for its citizens despite their religion. I can totally understand leaving the freedom for the person to choose without holding a stick to beat them into it.

If a city wants to live under Sharia; it's their business. If another wants to live like Vegas; also let it.
It is doing just that; and I expect Malaysian Muslims to be light years ahead of their Arab brethren.

As for the verse, my personal perspective is that it's focusing on covering the attractive parts in a female body to satisfy the goal of modesty; but the Wahhabi school -and the Sunni school behind it- included the face to cover too; mixing the ancient Arabic habit and reflecting it on the Quran.

It is very alarming to see how the Wahhabi school focuses obsessively on how women dress; but have no problems with banks dealing in Reba, or dictators ruling the people with force, or pulverizing another country like Yemen causing thousands of deaths.

Malaysia should only base it's Islamic laws on the Quran, but Sharia there is only a choice in specific regions where Muslims are the majority.

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I didn't troll. I simply said that trolling should be expected when the person holds that particular premise. From where I stand, you hold that premise. 

 Gives the right to troll, plaeese.  

And I do like the thought of man making gods. That the only explanation for gods existing. They are a man made concept. 

If you hold a position that I consider absurd and does not warrant serious consideration then I'm gonna poke fun.

Edit: Don't feel personally offended, jews, christians, hindus,............ positions are also absurd.

I wasn't referring to you, mh.brewer.
The universe is full of signs, and not being able to see them must make you ask yourself this question: why are you turning your eyes away from them?

The new discoveries being made are making the premise I'm holding stronger and stronger. There are signs of a design being unfolded every day; actually it's quite authentic to assume a designer, it became an impending fact.

Have you ever listened to the sounds of planets?
BTW I'm not trolling. They are talking for real: