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In support of the rage of man
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RE: In support of the rage of man
(March 31, 2019 at 9:01 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Or perhaps those you think of as "alpha males" were actually mentally ill people, who happened to find a socially accepted outlet for their disorders. Most psychopaths and narcissists think of themselves as "alphas". Many people with anti-social disorder probably do too.

Who gets to define illness? You? Does some shrink coming up with a term for a trait actually make it a disease?

I'd say we have to look at the species as a whole. There are so many men who have this particular "illness" that it's clearly an evolved trait. It's clearly not a trait that's well-adapted to civilized society, but that doesn't mean it's not normal and natural.

(March 31, 2019 at 1:07 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: "Son, your life is worthless" said no sane mommy or daddy, ever.  

Worthless?

"Women and children first."

Not worthless, exactly, but there's a kind of implicit term in the social contract-- men get to call the shots, for the most part, but when shit goes south they also bear the additional responsibility of placing themselves in mortal danger.

(March 31, 2019 at 1:27 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote: Expressions of emotions may be instinctive in babies, but not in adults.  We may instinctively feel emotions, but that doesn't mean we have to express them.  Often it's better not to, since emotions are so often reactions to appearances rather than to facts.  In other words, emotions can be and often are dishonest.  So if you are for expressing unfiltered emotions, you are also for expressing dishonesties in many situations, which isn't really helpful.
It's true that we generally learn to control our emotions as adults. It's also true that sometimes emotions cannot be controlled. How often have you seen a guy wiping his eyes after an emotional movie because he has "allergies?"

How often do people fall in love with a particularly bad choice of mate, get married, and follow them through the gates of hell? If they had control over their emotions, they would have said, "Ummmm. . . this not-very-good rock singer who has had sex with 10 different girls this year probably isn't the best life partner for me."

(March 31, 2019 at 1:29 pm)Yonadav Wrote: Why is my proudest memory from childhood the way that my mother doted over me and was so proud of me when I put myself between danger and my older sister? My father just nodded at me curtly. But my mother was so freaking proud. And don't get me wrong; I really loved her for that. It's hard to be a big, strong, brave man if your mother isn't proud of you.
That's right. If a girl tried to wrestle a gun away from an attacker in a grocery store, the only response she could expect to hear is "What the FUCK were you thinking!?" with the implied subtext ("Why didn't you wait for a man to save you?") Her dad almost for sure isn't going to give her a pat on the back and say how proud he is.

If a man does it, win or lose, he's likely to end up on the local news as a hero. His parents are very likely to be so overwhelmed with pride that they can't keep themselves from crying.
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In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - March 31, 2019 at 5:15 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - March 31, 2019 at 5:21 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by vulcanlogician - April 2, 2019 at 5:57 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - April 2, 2019 at 6:09 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by vulcanlogician - April 3, 2019 at 11:38 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - April 4, 2019 at 1:37 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - March 31, 2019 at 6:02 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - March 31, 2019 at 6:25 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - March 31, 2019 at 7:03 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Homeless Nutter - March 31, 2019 at 7:24 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - March 31, 2019 at 7:26 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Homeless Nutter - March 31, 2019 at 7:33 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - March 31, 2019 at 8:10 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Homeless Nutter - March 31, 2019 at 9:01 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - March 31, 2019 at 4:31 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - March 31, 2019 at 5:35 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Homeless Nutter - April 1, 2019 at 4:02 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - April 1, 2019 at 6:45 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Homeless Nutter - April 1, 2019 at 3:40 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 6:17 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 1, 2019 at 6:46 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Amarok - April 1, 2019 at 7:02 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 3:56 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Homeless Nutter - March 31, 2019 at 6:29 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by chimp3 - March 31, 2019 at 6:55 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 31, 2019 at 7:17 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - March 31, 2019 at 7:21 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by brewer - March 31, 2019 at 8:02 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - March 31, 2019 at 8:09 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by brewer - March 31, 2019 at 8:24 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 31, 2019 at 7:29 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by tackattack - March 31, 2019 at 7:49 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Shell B - March 31, 2019 at 5:50 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by onlinebiker - March 31, 2019 at 8:52 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - March 31, 2019 at 9:32 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - March 31, 2019 at 12:28 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Shell B - March 31, 2019 at 5:55 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - March 31, 2019 at 6:21 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Shell B - April 1, 2019 at 11:18 am
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 1, 2019 at 12:02 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 1, 2019 at 1:39 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Shell B - April 1, 2019 at 1:24 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Homeless Nutter - April 1, 2019 at 2:29 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 2:47 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Alan V - March 31, 2019 at 6:59 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 1, 2019 at 2:10 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 8:27 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 1, 2019 at 8:34 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 8:48 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 1, 2019 at 9:14 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Mermaid - April 1, 2019 at 11:49 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by LastPoet - April 1, 2019 at 1:49 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - March 31, 2019 at 1:07 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - March 31, 2019 at 1:29 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Alan V - March 31, 2019 at 1:27 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - March 31, 2019 at 1:31 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - March 31, 2019 at 1:39 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - March 31, 2019 at 1:41 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Amarok - March 31, 2019 at 3:06 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Cod - March 31, 2019 at 4:28 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - March 31, 2019 at 5:11 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Shell B - March 31, 2019 at 5:42 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Amarok - March 31, 2019 at 6:39 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - March 31, 2019 at 7:53 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - March 31, 2019 at 9:24 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by fredd bear - March 31, 2019 at 11:33 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 8:55 am
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 1, 2019 at 9:26 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 9:40 am
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 3:08 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - April 1, 2019 at 5:29 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Foxaèr - April 1, 2019 at 12:05 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 5:11 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 1, 2019 at 5:15 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 5:40 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 6:31 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 2, 2019 at 2:13 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 2, 2019 at 2:32 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Shell B - April 1, 2019 at 9:11 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by tackattack - April 1, 2019 at 5:31 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 1, 2019 at 5:32 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Amarok - April 1, 2019 at 5:36 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 5:46 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 6:08 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by LadyForCamus - April 1, 2019 at 10:57 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 11:19 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by LadyForCamus - April 1, 2019 at 11:42 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - April 1, 2019 at 11:45 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 6:26 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 6:44 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Amarok - April 1, 2019 at 6:45 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 6:44 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 6:36 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 6:50 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 7:16 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 6:51 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 7:24 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - April 1, 2019 at 7:46 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 8:07 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 8:31 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 7:48 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Amarok - April 1, 2019 at 7:10 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 7:15 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 7:18 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - April 1, 2019 at 8:16 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 8:28 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - April 1, 2019 at 9:11 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 8:39 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - April 1, 2019 at 10:11 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 8:06 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - April 1, 2019 at 9:07 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 9:14 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by arewethereyet - April 1, 2019 at 10:03 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by fredd bear - April 1, 2019 at 10:22 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - April 1, 2019 at 10:38 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 11:00 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 7:56 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 8:41 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 8:40 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 8:44 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by arewethereyet - April 1, 2019 at 8:42 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 8:44 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 8:50 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 8:49 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 8:53 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by arewethereyet - April 1, 2019 at 8:54 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 8:59 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by arewethereyet - April 1, 2019 at 9:05 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 9:08 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by arewethereyet - April 1, 2019 at 9:13 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 9:36 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Shell B - April 1, 2019 at 8:59 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by arewethereyet - April 1, 2019 at 9:02 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 9:06 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 10:19 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 1, 2019 at 10:45 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 10:27 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by tackattack - April 1, 2019 at 10:39 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 10:51 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - April 1, 2019 at 11:40 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 11:47 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - April 2, 2019 at 12:03 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 2, 2019 at 12:11 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - April 2, 2019 at 12:47 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 2, 2019 at 12:52 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - April 2, 2019 at 6:26 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 2, 2019 at 7:14 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - April 2, 2019 at 3:41 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Shell B - April 1, 2019 at 11:00 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 1, 2019 at 11:45 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 2, 2019 at 2:50 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Little lunch - April 2, 2019 at 7:05 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Acrobat - April 2, 2019 at 7:41 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 2, 2019 at 10:10 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 2, 2019 at 10:18 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Acrobat - April 2, 2019 at 11:50 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 2, 2019 at 12:24 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 2, 2019 at 2:53 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Athene - April 2, 2019 at 4:37 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by Mermaid - April 2, 2019 at 8:27 am
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 2, 2019 at 9:15 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by tackattack - April 2, 2019 at 9:20 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 2, 2019 at 10:10 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 2, 2019 at 10:23 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Yonadav - April 2, 2019 at 11:03 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2019 at 1:03 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by LadyForCamus - April 2, 2019 at 4:21 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Amarok - April 2, 2019 at 4:25 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Shell B - April 2, 2019 at 4:35 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 2, 2019 at 5:26 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - April 2, 2019 at 5:41 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Alan V - April 2, 2019 at 5:46 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by LadyForCamus - April 2, 2019 at 4:39 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by LadyForCamus - April 2, 2019 at 6:11 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 2, 2019 at 8:50 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 3, 2019 at 1:37 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 3, 2019 at 2:27 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 3, 2019 at 2:35 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Homeless Nutter - April 3, 2019 at 5:18 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - April 3, 2019 at 5:55 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 3, 2019 at 6:10 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 3, 2019 at 6:10 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Homeless Nutter - April 3, 2019 at 6:13 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 3, 2019 at 6:08 am
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 2, 2019 at 8:06 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 3, 2019 at 2:47 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by I_am_not_mafia - April 3, 2019 at 2:54 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Little lunch - April 3, 2019 at 7:05 am
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 3, 2019 at 6:02 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 3, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - April 3, 2019 at 7:05 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by arewethereyet - April 3, 2019 at 9:11 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 3, 2019 at 9:35 pm
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RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 3, 2019 at 10:17 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 3, 2019 at 9:56 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by LadyForCamus - April 3, 2019 at 10:17 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by The Grand Nudger - April 3, 2019 at 10:19 pm
RE: In support of the rage of man - by bennyboy - April 4, 2019 at 6:43 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Belacqua - April 4, 2019 at 3:53 am
RE: In support of the rage of man - by Little lunch - April 4, 2019 at 5:11 am
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