(May 22, 2019 at 12:34 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:(May 22, 2019 at 12:23 am)Acrobat Wrote: Except of course the moral argument is just another design argument, the only real difference between it and other design arguments is that’s it more like the design of a novel, than an engineering project.
Such arguments are derived from the perception of intrinsic meaning and purpose, like a novel might possess, they are teleological arguments, just a different sort.
Do you think the argument from morality holds water?
I think so, at least a basic one that’s not specific to any single religion or religious text.
I would argue that suggestions even if made by self identify atheists, that moral rightness and wrongness exists objectively, present a reality akin to something like a novel, I.e a design argument.
I think the moral argument holds water, so much so that it seems pretty difficult even for many atheists to reject objective morality, or beliefs in some sort of transcendent moral reality.
At least that’s my opinion.