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Moral Oughts
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Moral Oughts
This question is primarily reserved for Atheists who subscribe to Moral Realism.

You drop your wallet, I’m tempted to keep it/steal it to buy myself an Xbox.

A moral realist, at least in regards to the scenario above would agree, that stealing is wrong, and that this is an objective truth.

So if a realist came up to me, and said stealing is wrong, I can understand that they are stating a fact, an objective truth in doing so.

Now if the realist says to me that I ought not steal, are they also expressing an objective truth? Or is it more of a subjective goal than an objective truth?

If I said no it’s not wrong to steal, according to moral realism, I’d be stating something factually incorrect, like stating the earth is flat.

Now if i said I reject the statement that I ought not steal, am I rejecting a fact, an objective truth here? Or just some subjective goal you and others want me to follow?
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Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 11:43 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 1, 2019 at 11:47 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 11:49 am
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RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:02 pm
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RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:04 pm
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RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:08 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:06 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 12:07 pm
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RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 1:26 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 6:29 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 7:02 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 7:21 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 7:31 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 7:45 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 2:03 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 5:43 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 6:33 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 6:48 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 7:06 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 7:48 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Belacqua - August 3, 2019 at 7:50 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 8:17 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 9:45 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:08 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:11 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:30 pm
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RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 7:27 pm
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RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 7:53 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 7:48 am
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RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 8:11 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 8:19 am
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RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 8:52 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 8:21 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 8:56 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 9:15 am
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RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 9:24 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 9:32 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:16 am
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RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:21 am
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RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:47 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Mister Agenda - August 3, 2019 at 9:53 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by DLJ - August 3, 2019 at 10:01 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Abaddon_ire - August 3, 2019 at 7:18 pm
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RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 9:55 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Abaddon_ire - August 8, 2019 at 6:17 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 1:31 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Mister Agenda - August 3, 2019 at 10:12 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 12:15 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 7, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 1:44 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 1:48 pm
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RE: Moral Oughts - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 6:32 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 2:10 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 7:21 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by DLJ - August 4, 2019 at 2:13 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 9:47 pm
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RE: Moral Oughts - by Objectivist - August 29, 2019 at 5:59 pm
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RE: Moral Oughts - by Objectivist - August 30, 2019 at 12:24 am
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RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 7:15 pm
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RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 29, 2019 at 8:37 pm
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