(December 23, 2019 at 3:01 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(December 22, 2019 at 9:20 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Following that line of reasoning, I could observe the universe, read the Bible, and reach a conclusion that invalidates your own. If you can use the same method for ascertaining what is true and arrive at mutually exclusive conclusions, then your method is not reliable, Atlas.
But you will be met by the flagrant verses in the bible, proving to you that the book -the bible- is the word of man, not God.
While the Quran is a total different cup of tea regarding explicit, flagrant language: it simply has no such language.
Now, wait a minute. A post ago, you conceded that the book, by itself, cannot also be the evidence the book is true, because that’s circular. You said the additional evidence is “look at the universe”. Well, anyone with a sufficient lack of scientific understanding can look at the universe, and think, “therefore god”, but the universe doesn’t tell you which god. So, now we’re back to books, and trying to use Quran to prove Quran. I don’t care how lovely its artistry is, you’re still begging the question.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.