RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quranic manuscripts from 1400 years
December 23, 2019 at 10:34 pm
(This post was last modified: December 23, 2019 at 11:11 pm by WinterHold.)
(December 23, 2019 at 11:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:I don't recall that Britain was invaded by the Mongols, or witnessed whole civilizations converting to "The First Folio".
The 17th century is also not the 7th century. I refuse the comparing of 17th century Britain's ability to preserve books to 7th century Islamic empire.
Utterly immaterial to the main point, which is that preservation of a document doesn't make that document true.
But if length of time is that important to you, do you accept the Gilgamesh flood to be a true and accurate historical account? Tablets XI and XII recount this myth, and we have the original clay tablets. Because of this, the story can't possibly have been altered.
The tablets are older to Mohammed than Mohammed is to us. Does that mean they're true?
Boru
If the content of the tablet proved true. But the tablet contains content well known to be wrong and can be refuted in seconds.
The length of time is important to me, but it's not everything.
(December 23, 2019 at 11:47 am)Deesse23 Wrote:It is a must; I can't imagine a person with disability like being deaf+blind+mute, reading the theory of General Relativity.(December 23, 2019 at 10:29 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: To make sure I'm not being fooled.
Because God gave us eyes, mind, ears...etc. The additional collecting of evidence through your senses is a must. This is how humans read.
No it isnt a must. Quite the opposite. Islam dictates so!
#1 Islam dictates that the Quran is the unaltered work of god
#2 You want to collect additional evidence to make sure you arent fooled by Islam
Conclusion: You cannot be a Muslim, at least not a True Muslim
As to the points you presented; indeed the Quran is more than okay about people checking if it's the truth or not; look at this verse for example:
Quote:Sura 30, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh
( 6 ) [It is] the promise of Allah. Allah does not fail in His promise, but most of the people do not know.
( 7 ) They know what is apparent of the worldly life, but they, of the Hereafter, are unaware.
( 8 ) Do they not contemplate within themselves? Allah has not created the heavens and the earth and what is between them except in truth and for a specified term. And indeed, many of the people, in [the matter of] the meeting with their Lord, are disbelievers.
Quote:If Islam is true, then you should not collect evidence. If you collect evidence you cannot be a follower of Islam. If Allah tells you to collect evidence (by giving a book that is *obsolete* without evidence), then Islam is not accoring to the will of Allah.
But the Quran itself told me to observe and contemplate.
Quote:But the Quran dictates it is the unaltered word of god. If Islam is true, i should not collect evidence. If Quran is god unaltered word, then Islam is not following Allahs unaltered word
On a sidenote: What is your method of collecting evidence?
Fix your information. It did tell you that in 30: 6-7-8