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[Serious] Giordano Bruno
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Giordano Bruno
Some people dislike the falsehoods of religion so much that they will spread different falsehoods to oppose them. 

Giordano Bruno's life and work -- and especially his death -- are frequently cited in these false stories meant to oppose religion. People repeat that he was a martyr for science, though he was not a scientist and was not executed for doing science. 

This is from Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition, by Frances Yates, p452:

Quote: 

Ever since Domenico Berti2 revived him as the hero who died rather than
renounce his scientific conviction of the truth of the Copernican theory, the
martyr for modern science, the philosopher who broke with medieval
Aristotelianism and ushered in the modern world, Bruno has been in a false
position. The popular view of Bruno is still roughly as just stated. If I have not
finally proved its falsity, I have written this book in vain.

For what is the truth? Bruno was an out-and-out magician, an “Egyptian” and
Hermetist of the deepest dye, for whom the Copernican heliocentricity heralded
the return of magical religion, who in his dispute with the Oxford doctors
associated Copernicanism with the magic of Ficino's De vita coelitus
comparanda, for whom the Copernican diagram was a hieroglyph of the divine,
who defended earth-movement with Hermetic arguments concerning the magical
life in all nature, whose aim was to achieve Hermetic gnosis, to reflect the world
in the mens by magical means, including the stamping of magic images of the
stars on memory, and so to become a great Magus and miracle-working religious
leader. Sweeping away the theological superstructure which the Christian
Hermetists had evolved, using Cabala only as subsidiary to Magia, Bruno is a
pure naturalist whose religion is the natural religion of the pseudo-Egyptian
Hermetic Asclepius. Bruno's world view shows what could be evolved out of an
extension and intensification of the Hermetic impulse towards the world.

Through a Hermetic interpretation of Copernicus and Lucretius, Bruno arrives at
his astonishing vision of an infinite extension of the divine as reflected in nature.
The earth moves because it is alive around a sun of Egyptian magic; the planets
as living stars perform their courses with her; innumerable other worlds, moving
and alive like great animals, people an infinite universe.

The most recent person to repeat the falsehood points us to this brief video:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=944519919268029

Please note that the narrator says Bruno was not a scientist. 

The speaker in the video, Ingrid Rowland, is a real scholar. Her book will be useful to anyone who wants a complete picture. In the video, Rowland agrees that reading Copernicus "set the stage" for Bruno's own ideas. The point, though, is to see what Bruno's own ideas consisted of. They were a mishmash of superstition and occultism based on fake Egyptian tablets. If he had limited himself to Copernicus's views, he would not have been in trouble. But he returned to Italy from a long and successful speaking tour in the rest of Europe with the expressed purpose of overthrowing the church and replacing it with his own equally unbelievable system. 

He was not executed for believing Copernicus. 

I don't expect the people who repeat falsehoods about him to accept this. 

https://historyforatheists.com/2017/03/t...r-science/

https://thonyc.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/...uno-wrong/

https://thonyc.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/...cientific/

It seems odd that I have to say this, but it is good to tell the truth. It is bad to lie.
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