(March 2, 2020 at 12:17 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I fear that the oppo research the GOP has on Sanders that they're waiting to spring if he becomes the nominee would sink his presidential campaign. They'll paint him as a hypocrite (millionaire socialist), commie ('praised' Castro, supported the Sandinistas, honeymooned in Soviet-era Moscow), and ne'er do well (stole electricity from a neighbor, never held a 'regular' job outside of politics).
If he gets the nomination he's got my vote; but just because someone's positions resonate doesn't mean they're the best candidate to field in a particular election. Swing voters, they type that voted for Obama and then voted for Trump, the ones who will make the difference in battleground states, may not 'get' the difference between social democrats and democratic socialists; but for the most part they know 'socialism bad'. The sad part is that Bernie is not a socialist in any meaningful way, just a Social Democrat, him embracing the title was shooting himself in the foot should he ever want to be president of the USA (given his likely remaining lifespan). The country is ready to expand healthcare benefits, but if you call yourself a socialist, not enough are going to trust you not to smuggle gulags in while you're about expanding Medicare; and this is still true largely of even Democratic voters.
OTH, if the economy tanks, any port in a storm....
Do you think anybody would perform better than Senator Sanders? Joe Biden sometimes looks like he's forgotten what state he's campaigning in. He's also really racists, as I've outlined in previous posts. Although he's not as racist as Michael Bloomberg apparently. If people want to vote for a racist in the general election they can vote for Donald Trump, so why not give people a real choice in the general election?
(March 2, 2020 at 6:12 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(March 2, 2020 at 4:31 am)ReptilianPeon Wrote: Do you know that Obama also praised Cuba? He said the same things Sanders did but because it's Obama nobody on the Democratic side cared. In fact, Whoopi Golbrg even defended Obama for the exact same comments she attacked Sanders for, once again declaring that she is a hypocrite.
So did Obama "blow it" too?
Article from New York Magazine:
Bernie Praised Fidel Castro’s Education System. So Did Obama
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/...ooper.html
Video showing the hypocrisy on Cuba and defending Obama for saying the same things Sanders said:
https://youtu.be/uMFkH9kF9wE
The chief difference being Obama wasn't a democratic socialist, so people didn't already equate him with 5 year plans, gulags, and the ravening Red Horde.
Boru
People called a Obama a Communist all of the time, rightly or wrongly. I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. There are people in the USA who view anybody on the Democratic side as "Communist" regardless of their positions on issues. The ironic reality is, George Soros actually helped to end Communism in Europe (such as in his native Hungary).
Some of Sanders family, being Jewish, died in Nazi camps. I have a hard time believing he'd support Gulags. But true, the average American is pretty brain dead and especially so the pundits on the cable news.
Donald Trump and his lackeys have praised everyone's favourite bogeyman, Kim Jon Un, on a regular basis, therefore the Democrats need a strong candidate who will point the Republicn hypocrisy and not a weak one like Joe Biden or Michael Bloomberg, who are both proud of working with Republicans. Joe Biden seems especially proud of working segregationists like Strom Thurmond.
