(February 21, 2021 at 7:13 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(February 19, 2021 at 12:03 pm)Five Wrote: I was thinking about it recently, trying to section out why certain people join certain religions or believe in certain Gods. And I was thinking about the personal morality people accept and define for themselves.Perceiving God directly through the 5 senses would only result in a debate on the issue.
Why join one religion versus another? I think it's because you personally don't agree with those other religions definition of God and morality. What if they were true? Is truth only the commandments you would reasonably tolerate from a God? Even within your own accepted religion, there are things that "God" could ask you to do that you would tell him "no" instead of obeying. If God pulled an Abraham and Isaac on you, would you do as he asked and kill your child?
If you said "yes" to that question...that's a different discussion. But if you said no, how can faith be defined as anything other than your own subjective morality?
Would it change things if God himself came down and told you to do stuff directly? Could you trust a supernatural being that asked you to do something that you felt was morally wrong? What proof would you need to know that this supernatural visitor was God and not something evil?
Scenario: If a physical entity with the appearance of personhood were to materialize on the White House lawn and while saying “I’m God” (loud enough that it was recorded) levitated a foot above the ground, would that constitute proof that God is not hidden? As the Secret Service approached, this entity asked one agent to place his hand on the entity’s shoulder which the agent did, thus making the entity disappear. Later, in the briefing, the agent said the shoulder garment felt ‘velvety’, anything else you noticed? ‘Yes, as we approached this thing, there was an aroma of fruit, the closer we got the more pungent it became, much like orange blossoms’.
This is an interesting scenario. Assuming it was televised live and not just a story reported by Secret Service members; and the tape and site was investigated by relevant experts for signs of trickery and no shenanigans were uncovered, it would not be strong evidence that the entity was God, but it would be the strongest evidence we've ever had of beings capable of superhuman feats. It would be debatable but it would also gain a lot of conversions; although this guy sounds more like a manifestation of Vishnu that the Christian God. It wouldn't convince me, but it would convince a lot of people and could be brought up any time someone asked for evidence of the supernatural. Seems kind of small potatoes for a being that should be able to spell out 'Hey, I'm real--the God of Abraham' in galaxies; which btw would convince me.
Of course, to answer Five's question, you should indicate if there was anything this being that appeared at the WH could ask you to do which you would refuse.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.