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Trans Jesus
Trans Jesus
In the movie Religulous (2008) Bill Maher talks to a Christian who tells Maher, and I qoute:
Quote:They took blood samples from it [shroud of Turin], and it was female blood with a male figure. Okay, the only possible way that could happen was that the Holy Ghost impregnated Mary because it would've been female blood because it would've been the only blood flowing through her.

Now, of course, scientists didn't find any DNA on that shroud, but the conclusion to his belief seems right. Because if you believe a virginal conception, the first cell in Jesus' organism would have to be a female cell. And if this female cell miraculously were to begin to divide without the intervention of a man, so that a human being came into existence through further cellular division, then such a virginal pregnancy must inevitably issue in the birth of a female person. So at some point, before Jesus was born, an originally female fetus would have to be transformed into a masculine fetus. But then, always assuming Mary's conceiving and giving birth as a virgin, we'd have to think about—or believe in—a transsexual mutation of Jesus, in other words, a metamorphosis of Jesus from a female into a male.

And why is that? Because people who wrote the Gospels didn't yet know of the ovum. Back then they were following Aristotelian biology, which viewed the woman as an empty vessel for the masculine principle. Luke and Matthew, thought that women were nothing more than something like the soil, the flower pot, the petri dish into which the man placed the seed, out of which the child then grew.

Matthew and Luke could think that if an earthly father was excluded from the begetting of Jesus, then God alone would be the active force. They had no idea that to generate a person, two equally active partners were needed, so that even if the man was replaced by God, God would still not be the only active principle.

So since the discovery of the ovum—and with it of the woman's share in reproduction—the traditional idea of the virgin birth as an image of God's lonely creative action has become indefensible or Jesus is a trans person because any further claim that Mary gave birth virginally reduces God's role to that of a mere male substitute.

And it seems that Churches, like Catholic Church, still follow Aristotle's biology. Because if it acknowledged the existence of the ovum, then it would have only two choices: either change the Creed to read, "50 percent conceived by the Holy Spirit" or, should the Church continue to deny Mary an ovum, then she becomes not Jesus' mother but his foster mother or, to put it crudely, a rented womb.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"

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Trans Jesus - by Fake Messiah - April 2, 2021 at 7:12 am
RE: Trans Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2021 at 9:35 am
RE: Trans Jesus - by Drich - April 5, 2021 at 1:23 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by Angrboda - April 5, 2021 at 1:29 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by Drich - April 5, 2021 at 2:01 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by brewer - April 5, 2021 at 6:29 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by Drich - April 6, 2021 at 12:32 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by brewer - April 6, 2021 at 2:25 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by Fake Messiah - April 6, 2021 at 5:38 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by Ranjr - April 5, 2021 at 1:48 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by no one - April 5, 2021 at 2:14 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 5, 2021 at 2:35 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 5, 2021 at 3:21 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 6, 2021 at 1:14 pm
RE: Trans Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 6, 2021 at 7:31 pm

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