RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
October 19, 2021 at 1:21 am
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2021 at 1:23 am by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
(October 18, 2021 at 11:13 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:(October 18, 2021 at 3:55 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: The fact that our existence is contingent upon many vastly unlikely outcomes does warrant an explanation, and the most straightforward explanation for a universe bringing about personal agents is a personal creator who intended for this to happen. All theories that describe the workings of the universe are by definition within the universe and therefore have zero explanatory power when it comes to explaining the universe itself.
And your problem is that "Goddunnit!" isn't an explanation at all and doesn't even pretend to have any explanatory power. It's simply a crutch for your mythology and an excuse to stop asking questions.
The claims that existence warrants justification is just that, a claim, not a given.
For me, reality/existence/ everything just is. For me, a fact justifies its own existence. It may imply many things, but it infers nothing but itself .
Also worth pointing out that a common position for agnostics is that god or the supernatural is not knowable with any certainty. That is not my position, but I find it compelling.
"Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, the divine, or the supernatural is not known or knowable with any certainty. If the question is "Does God exist?", "yes" would imply theism, "no" would imply atheism, and "I'm not sure" would imply agnosticism—that God possibly can or cannot exist.[1][2][3][4] Another definition provided is the view that "human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify either the belief that God exists or the belief that God does not exist."[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
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