(November 24, 2021 at 1:07 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(November 24, 2021 at 11:48 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But we’re all in the same frame of reference regarding the Does-free-will-exist question. Expecting that to determine the answers is like expecting the rats in a maze to have a confab as to the meaning of the experiment. It’s not possible for us to determine if we’re even in the maze at all. It would take a rat standing outside the maze to make that realization.
Boru
They are actually aware of what is going on:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_C._Tolman
‘Aware of what is going on’ isn’t remotely the same as understanding the meaning of the experiment, and learning to run a maze isn’t the same as free will.
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson