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The issue of Blasphemy in Islam
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The issue of Blasphemy in Islam
On January 7 two terrorists entered the magazine’s offices and killed caretaker Frédéric Boisseau. They then forced cartoonist Corinne (“Coco”) Rey to enter the security code that granted access to the second floor, where an editorial meeting was being held. The attackers stormed into the newsroom, and police officer Franck Brinsolaro, who had been detailed to protect Charlie Hebdo editor Stéphane (“Charb”) Charbonnier, was shot before he had the chance to draw his weapon. The attackers then asked for Charbonnier and four other cartoonists—Jean (“Cabu”) Cabut, Georges (“Wolin”) Wolinski, Bernard (“Tignous”) Verlhac, and Philippe (“Honoré”) Honoré—by name before killing them as well. Their other victims were economist Bernard Maris and psychoanalyst Elsa Cayat, both columnists for Charlie Hebdo, copy editor Mustapha Ourrad, and journalist Michel Renaud, a guest at the meeting.
 
One of the pictures that had provoked their anger was this:

[Image: Charliehebdo.jpg]
 
 
So the subject of this topic blasphemy. My first comment on this is that there is no blasphemy in this event. In fact really love French cartoons like Tintin from Herger or “Asterix the Gaul”. I also read other type of French cartoonists like Raid Sattouf. So I read Chalie Hebdo after I heard the attacks. Honestly, I didn’t like it. Don’t misunderstand me. I like critical and sometimes mocking types of humor even cartoons that include violence and strong language. But I found Charlie Hebdo too superficial. What they do is to take some popular convictions on religious issues and transform it into pictures via some personalities that they call “Muhammed” or “The Pope” or “Jesus”. Whatever. Everyone has his / her taste of humor. That is not the type of comics that brings me to tears. The comic above says “1000 whips for you if you don’t laugh to tears”. – Well, sorry, I don’t.
And I don’t see the blasphemy in it either.
In the Kuran there are stories of Jews who killed the prophet Jesus. That’s blasphemy because they betrayed the prophet who was sent by God. Also, there are many scholars who condemn the whole Arab nation. Why? Because they betrayed the legacy of the prophet. They betrayed and killed the son-in-law of the prophet and his followers, although he was supposed to be the spiritual leader of the Muslim nation after the death of the prophet. These are the two most mentioned blasphemies that are mentioned in the books that I read.
But Charlie Hebdo? In the year 2015? In France? I honestly don’t know what this guys or the attacker of Jamal Kashoggi 1 month ago were thinking. I checked the book “The Satanic Verses” on Scribd. Again, all I saw was another literary book that some people found interesting. I didn’t read it because I don’t have time to read every book that appears in the media. But many people like it and it is said to deal with issues of immigration. So again: What’s the deal?
I read about the story a certain devil whispering false Verses to the prophet, and than the prophet should have erased it etc… Again: What’s the deal? My book it right here isn’t it? And the devil didn’t write it? So where is the problem?
 
Beside all this: there are 3 orders to kill in the Kuran that I know of:
1) There is the story of the prophet Abraham who was sent a lamb by God so that he would offer the lamb to his deity and not his son. Personally I don’t even make sacrifices. I makes charity instead. But Yes, at the end of Ramadan and during the pilgrimage in Mecca offerings and made and the meat is distributed to the poor.
2) War. Contrarily to popular belief holy war is a defensive issue. My current understanding is that only when the enemy comes to your door to kill and murder you, only than you have the right to take up arm and to defend yourself and your country. Otherwise all wars are nothing but mass murder. Again, the scholars that I am reading largely seem to support my view on this.
3) Terrorism, espionage, propagandists (The word used in the Kuran is “those who come to create serious trouble). In this case the order is to “look for them from every watch tower” to find them and to make them unable to hurt anyone (to kill them). Famous terrorists like Hassan Sabah existed in medieval times also. To deal with fanatics and real trouble makers you have no other solution. You have to do exactly what the CIA did to Osama Bin Laden. No more, no less Smile)
 
/ So these guys are maniacs. In fact they are exactly what is mentioned in the previous paragraph. And they are once again creating what we call negative Karma for their being because the Kuran also mentions divine consequences for people who kill. Basically, the “thou shalt not kill” commandment cannot be said to be absent from the Kuran either Smile)
 
One issue to be mentioned here is that idolatry is not allowed in Islam (everybody must have heard that by now). If somebody was to worship such picture. It would be considered a serious sin for the maker of those images and for the worshiper of those images. Once again: There is no death or whipping penalty for that either.
 
In fact, I have mentioned war. See according to Islam you don’t even walk to a conquered city, murder and rape everyone, raze the city to the ground, and forcibly convert the inhabitants. There is a whole legal system on the treatment of non-Muslim population. So Mehmet II, when he conquered Constantinople, went to the Hagia Sofia and told the Greeks there that from now on, they had become his subjects and that he would be their rulers. Indeed, the Greek kept living peacefully in Constantinople until 1955, when some fanatical / fascist / political Islamist mobs plundered all their belongings and they were forced to flee to Greece.
  
So unfortunately, Islam has become like a trademark that is being used unlawfully and without authorization by almost everyone who wants to sell this or that ware to you. But I am not going to buy these things. If these things were left free of charge to my door, I wouldn’t pick them up and I would let the doorman take it to the trash for me. That’s my religious view on the issue.   
 
One thing I might add: I could personally be angry if someone overtly insulted say, a historical figure that I really admire. But, again, personally, I could physically hit that person if I am on a bad day. But, you don’t kill people. I was taught that, religiously speaking, you simply don’t kill. So, one has to know that these people are doing the exact opposite.
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The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - September 25, 2022 at 3:09 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2022 at 3:22 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - September 26, 2022 at 3:22 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 25, 2022 at 4:29 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Jehanne - September 25, 2022 at 6:49 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - September 26, 2022 at 4:47 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - September 27, 2022 at 4:38 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - September 27, 2022 at 4:44 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - September 27, 2022 at 4:25 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - September 28, 2022 at 4:52 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2022 at 10:49 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - October 1, 2022 at 11:12 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 1, 2022 at 3:47 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - October 1, 2022 at 6:21 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 1, 2022 at 6:40 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - October 2, 2022 at 6:51 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2022 at 1:00 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - October 2, 2022 at 3:23 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by arewethereyet - October 2, 2022 at 3:27 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2022 at 3:30 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - October 3, 2022 at 4:01 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by arewethereyet - October 3, 2022 at 5:50 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Ahriman - October 3, 2022 at 10:36 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by arewethereyet - October 3, 2022 at 11:11 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 3, 2022 at 10:12 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 3, 2022 at 10:39 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Foxaèr - October 3, 2022 at 11:13 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by arewethereyet - October 3, 2022 at 11:32 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 3, 2022 at 11:16 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 3, 2022 at 11:36 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - October 5, 2022 at 8:44 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 5, 2022 at 11:00 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - October 6, 2022 at 8:46 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Ranjr - October 7, 2022 at 1:08 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 6, 2022 at 10:39 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - October 6, 2022 at 3:24 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by arewethereyet - October 6, 2022 at 6:57 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 6, 2022 at 3:35 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - October 7, 2022 at 4:26 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 7, 2022 at 4:28 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Leonardo17 - October 7, 2022 at 5:13 pm
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Ranjr - October 8, 2022 at 9:51 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Jehanne - October 8, 2022 at 10:11 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Ranjr - October 8, 2022 at 10:46 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2022 at 12:03 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2022 at 11:55 am
RE: The issue of Blasphemy in Islam - by Ranjr - October 8, 2022 at 8:14 pm

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