Hello atheistforum

[Abracadabra]

I am not in denial of what Christianity teaches, I am disputing your mischaracterization of it.

Sorry, your the one in denial of what it actually states. You're just trying to make excuses for it.

Well, what do you base your intuitions on?

What are you talking about?

Intuition is intuition. It's not based on anything. It just is what it is.

What exactly is it that informs this picture of (the biblical) God that you have?

The Bible?

What are the contradictions that you see and do you not believe in the historical existence of Jesus?

I could write a book on that as large as the Bible itself. There are far too many to mention. Plus you haven't even shown that you are worth talking with. You've already lied to me (see below). And you refuse to acknowledge when I point out errors in your thinking.

However, just for kicks I'll post the following contradictions here:

Jesus didn't even agree with the teachings of the God of Abraham. The God of Abraham instructed people to judge one another and to stone those who are judged to be sinners to death.

Jesus rejected that immoral bull crap and taught people not to judge one another and not to stone people to death for being sinners.

Add to that the fact that this God is supposed to be unchanging and you have a totally irresolvable contradiction.

Same is true concerning the teachings of seeking revenge. The God of Abraham taught people to seek revenge as in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

Jesus taught people not to seek revenge and to turn the other cheek and forgive people.

Again, if Jesus was supposed to be the son of the God of Abraham even he obviously didn't agree with his own Father.

Let's face it, the stories are absurd.

Something more needs to be said, I think; could you describe how you think of spirit? You can also some aspects of Gods nature from the bible, such as being all-knowing, all-powerful, omni-benevolent, etc.

I accept the premise that spirit is unknowable. I don't pretend to know what spirit is like.

And as you point out the bible claims that it's God is omni-benvolent, yet at the same time it claims that this God has set things up so that the vast majority of the souls he creates end up in an eternal hell-fire of damnation and suffering.

(Add that to the list of blatant contradictions please)

What caused you to reject Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?

I didn't. I simply realized that "Jesus" or the person who sparked those rumors (if such a person even existed at all) could not possibly have been "The Christ" (or the son of the God of Abraham, etc).

So there was nothing to 'reject'.

No, I was seeking out God at the time.

Well this is where you are lying to me.

You're either lying now, or you were lying before when you said:

I wasn't seeking out God to clean up my life; I was exploring Christianity to test its truth claims.

So there's no point in talking with you anymore. I can't believe anything you have to say. Evidently you'll say anything at any moment in a desperate attempt to get out of ruts that you had previously dug yourself into.

I came to Christianity because I felt led there, so I went to church to see whether I was mistaken; that was the test. I figured if God wanted me He would let me know. After a few services, I felt called to give my life to Jesus. I wasn't asking God to prove it; what I did was put faith in God that His claims were true. My belief in God is affirmed moment to moment; Since I received the Holy Spirit, I always experience the presence of God.

See now you're changing your hole story around.

I have a pretty good idea what Christianity is about. Since you were to be a pastor, you must surely understand the scriptures very well. Take your best shot..I love a good challenge.

I'm done with you buddy. You're not worth talking to. You outright lie, and clearly you'll continue to lie in an attempt to peddle your religion at all cost.

IMHO, you're pathetic.