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Question for agnostics and atheists
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RE: Question for agnostics and atheists
OK so the know universe is a closed system (defined by no new matter) but not an isolated system (due to dark matter). So my terminology earlier was mistaken and the second law of thermodynamics does not apply to closed systems only isolated systems. Did science think at one time our solar system was an isolated system? Could we delve from the point a little and discuss dark matter? How do we postulate that it comes into the known universe or are we just recently discovering it and it can't be determined and hasn't been discovered before?

I will jump ahead in my logic and glimpse on a theory (worded horribly to convey my point I'm sure). I see a man-made box on a table to test what man has yet to prove with his meager senses. We can contain the few bits of existence that are measure to us in a box and say this is the 1+1=2 of it. The reality of it is 1x=1y=2z and we don't know how the other factors play in yet. The more we learn (like super-black holes and photons and gravity) the more we have to amend the equation. Do we really think one random quirky genome sequence in the vastnesss of the universe happened upon the one testing apparatus to verify all of the universe and it sits on a desk in a university. What if the universe (seperate from our know universe) is inside a little box, but we're too blind to see it yet. It's walls (read as rules) are clearly defined and our known universe is ever expanding directly proportional to our understanding of it. It's logically probably a closed system as we've seen on a smaller scale. If it has a set amount of energy then theoreticaly it could be statistically tested and imperical. I'm tired and will discuss more tomorrow. Thank you for your wealth of knowledge.
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Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 2, 2009 at 6:34 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Darwinian - December 2, 2009 at 6:35 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by leo-rcc - December 2, 2009 at 6:39 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by padraic - December 2, 2009 at 6:50 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 2, 2009 at 7:35 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Joe Bloe - December 2, 2009 at 12:25 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Pope Alfred - December 2, 2009 at 2:00 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Purple Rabbit - December 2, 2009 at 5:53 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Ace Otana - December 2, 2009 at 12:54 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Violet - December 2, 2009 at 4:55 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by fr0d0 - December 2, 2009 at 5:41 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Violet - December 2, 2009 at 5:46 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by littlegrimlin1 - December 2, 2009 at 5:56 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Purple Rabbit - December 2, 2009 at 6:16 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 3, 2009 at 2:26 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Purple Rabbit - December 3, 2009 at 2:38 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 3, 2009 at 3:30 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by leo-rcc - December 3, 2009 at 5:10 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Joe Bloe - December 3, 2009 at 8:02 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Purple Rabbit - December 3, 2009 at 2:54 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by rjh4 - December 10, 2009 at 3:59 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 4:17 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by rjh4 - December 10, 2009 at 4:40 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 5:03 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Purple Rabbit - December 12, 2009 at 4:53 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by rjh4 - December 12, 2009 at 3:50 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Purple Rabbit - December 4, 2009 at 5:26 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by padraic - December 4, 2009 at 7:56 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Purple Rabbit - December 5, 2009 at 5:26 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Rhizomorph13 - December 4, 2009 at 8:11 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by padraic - December 5, 2009 at 1:33 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Eilonnwy - December 5, 2009 at 2:19 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by padraic - December 5, 2009 at 8:29 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Purple Rabbit - December 5, 2009 at 5:15 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by leo-rcc - December 5, 2009 at 10:16 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by padraic - December 5, 2009 at 6:47 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Purple Rabbit - December 5, 2009 at 7:29 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 6, 2009 at 4:38 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by leo-rcc - December 6, 2009 at 6:27 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by theVOID - December 6, 2009 at 7:13 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 6, 2009 at 7:58 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Purple Rabbit - December 6, 2009 at 11:21 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by downbeatplumb - December 6, 2009 at 1:02 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 7, 2009 at 12:16 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 8, 2009 at 3:19 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 3:41 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 8, 2009 at 4:10 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 4:55 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 8, 2009 at 5:00 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 5:35 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 8, 2009 at 7:50 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 9:24 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 9, 2009 at 2:22 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by theVOID - December 9, 2009 at 2:47 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 9, 2009 at 7:21 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Autumnlicious - December 9, 2009 at 4:52 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by Autumnlicious - December 9, 2009 at 2:04 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 9, 2009 at 5:39 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 10, 2009 at 5:05 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 5:43 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by rjh4 - December 11, 2009 at 9:49 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by theVOID - December 11, 2009 at 9:58 am
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by tackattack - December 10, 2009 at 9:15 pm
RE: Question for agnostics and atheists - by theVOID - December 11, 2009 at 6:39 am

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