RE: Time.
February 13, 2010 at 7:53 pm
(This post was last modified: February 13, 2010 at 7:54 pm by Watson.)
(February 13, 2010 at 5:56 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Um, Watson,Insofar as having described myself asone, yes. But that doesn't mean I can never do anything that a free-thinker wouldn't do. Think about it. To label oneself something like, say, Temporalogical Noncognitivist means that you can have no thoughts outside of that label's specific criteria. Essentially, you can't be a free-thinker since by definition a free-thinker has free thoughts.
"As a free-thinker, I can have no term applied to me."
Isn't, "free-thinker" a label?
(February 13, 2010 at 12:40 am)Watson Wrote:That is my point! Nothing at all can be proven, not really. Beyond your own mind how can you tell or rely on anything? If you're nothing but a human being with a perception, couldn't it all just be a lie?Quote: But the problem with that is that you can't prove it's not just an endless loop of the same says and same nights over and over again. Essentially all you can do is prove that the earth went around the sun one more time, not that it has been doing so for ever and ever.
We also can't prove that we aren't just a brain in a jar being fed stimuli. We can't prove that God didn't speak the universe into being last Thursday. What is your point?
Or do you have faith that that's not the case?
Quote:I don't think time exists as a substance, but it is real. The word time simply expresses something that we can measure and those measurements prove to be useful over time(hee hee), so we know the description is functional.Nice word choice there.
I too believe that time is real, but it isn't a substance and obviously not a physical thing. It can't be measured technically because there is no way of looking back or forward on it. Time just exists in the present and nothing more, if we are to look at it in this way.
Quote:In a lab you can measure time with a stopwatch.Which proves nothing but that you built a stopwatch and it is ticking.
Quote:Are you going to move on and ask that we demonstrate in a lab what an inch is next? Or prove that "width", "depth", or "height" is real?
Rhizo
Yes please.
Oh, and hey, PR? Prove to me that those clocks that stopped moving were moved by time, and not just motion, and we'll get somewhere.