RE: World's Oldest Christian Church discovered in Jordan!!
December 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2008 at 11:49 am by Psalm 23.)
(December 11, 2008 at 7:14 pm)chatpilot Wrote: Like all Christians Psalm you are just grasping at straws,Christians have been looking for evidence of the existence of Jesus "the Messiah" for about 2000 years since his fictional story was written.Also,I love the way you neglected to post this aspect of the article:The earliest Christian Worship was the Church of Saint Georgeous that existed in the 3rd century!
The earliest established sites of Christian worship in the region date from the 3rd century, and the claims of al-Hassan and his team have yet to be fully tested.
Re-read the article. The cave was dated between 33-70 A.D.
St. Georgeous Church existed in the 3rd century.
(December 12, 2008 at 6:59 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Perhaps but it DOES NOT prove that Christ figure was real in a physical sense.Yes it does prove Jesus existed before the N.T.
Quote:As I said earlier you have yet to prove this man is a Muslim.Christians are executed in Jordan. There's your answer. Do you think Islamic radicals would allow this man to provide evidence of CHRIST on Islamic territory?
Quote:It's YOUR claim, YOU ask Hassan, while you're at it you might try confirming the claim above.I would love to ask Al-Hassan, but apparenly Islamic Leaders in Jordan have halted this story from going any further. Gee, I wonder why?
Quote:Er ... no we're not and quite frankly you're being at best disingenuous, at worst lying, to say "we" (as a group) are.Atheists have some explaining to do.
Quote:Apparently such claims need some for of supporting and rationally interpreted evidence as well ... perhaps you'd be so good as top provide something a little more weighty than OPINION.This cave was not a matter of opinion. It was based on facts. That's why Islamic leaders threatened this guy.
Quote:Nope, nor do I greatly care ... please prove Hassan is a Muslim.In case you didn't know. Openly admitted Christians are persecuted in Jordan, and most of the Middle East.
Quote:Your friend told you? Oh Lord, my eyes have been opened! Just get to it will you? Prove this Hassan is a Muslim.I didn't claim it to be true. I just told you what I heard in another forum. But I doubt it to be true since openly public christians are killed in countries like Jordan.
Quote:And when it is I'm sure we will accept it even if a little unwillingly but until that day please, be a good chap, and provide some [expletive deleted] evidence!!!The evidence has been exposed.
"They will be without excuse!"
That means You!
(December 11, 2008 at 2:08 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: So present the evidence.More pictures are showing up across the internet.
A book without a way of verification of its validity outside quotes from the same book is not evidence.
A building is evidence that religious people used a building, it is not evidence on the existence of what they believed existed. The parthenon is not evidence that Athena existed.
You claim Dr Al-Hassan has evidence, present it. The article doesn't do that.
http://directionstoorthodoxy.org/mod/gal...ery_id=112