RE: World's Oldest Christian Church discovered in Jordan!!
December 14, 2008 at 2:57 pm
(December 14, 2008 at 9:01 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: No it doesn't, it potentially infers that there was a thing (possibly a person) called Christ that they worshipped, it does not prove that person exists (or whether it was physical or spiritual) any more than people worshipping god proves that god exists.
Jesus was not there physically. They were worshipping him in spirit. He was already executed by the Romans.
Quote:I don't give a damn ... prove this man was a Muslim.
Research him for yourself. Dr Abdul Qader Al-Hassan
Quote:Gee, I wonder why you're avoiding the question ... prove Hassan was a Muslim.
He is a Muslim. Research him Dr Abdul Qader Al-Hassan
Quote:No, YOU are the one making the EXTRAORDINARY claim, it is up to YOU to prove it. Atheists are not all (en masse) claiming what you said, if anything they seem to be shifting towards the idea that your Christ didn't exist at all.
No, I said the archaealogists have evidence.
Quote:The cave is evidence certainly however it has yet to be demonstrated that it supports your claims. I tentatively accept it demonstrates Christian worship at the time the cave was in use ... you have yet to demonstrate that Hassan is a Muslim (a key part of your argument as it reflects on a possible pro-Christian agenda), that the cave is as old as Hassan claims and that the "worshippers" (if any) were literally worshipping a physical Christ (it remains a possibility that they were Gnostics, Gnostics apparently believed Christ was a spiritual rather than physical being).
Nobody has claimed "Jesus was in this cave."
Quote:I don't give a damn ... prove this man was a Muslim.
I've told you to research it.
Quote:You "heard it in another forum"??? What the #@&% do you think evidence is? If you "heard it another forum" it is not unreasonable to NOT treat this claim as evidence, at best it is hearsay. I don't care what you think it means; you're biased ... I care about the facts.
Show me where I said it was evidence?
Quote:No, your OPINION has been exposed. Unsupported opinion (especially form one with so obvious an agenda) is not now and never will be considered evidence.
It's not my opinion. You might want to talk to Dr. Al-Hassan.
Quote:Like I give a damn!
No one says you have to.
