(November 25, 2015 at 5:43 pm)orangebox21 Wrote:(November 25, 2015 at 3:24 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Are you freakin' kidding me, orangebox? God creates (of course I don't believe god exists, or created anything, which nullifies this whole observation, so)In order for me to properly understand your argument I need to understand how you are defining the word "unfair." For example, definitions can include:
according to the BIBLE, Gawd creates a human with deformities. Don't give me that BS about the deformities being caused by the sins of the parents - which is also unfair, punishing the child for the sins of their father. But then, this creature that god created is banned from worshiping like their able-bodied peers.
That's utterly ridiculous.
1.not based on or behaving according to the principles of equality and justice (Oxford dictionary)
2. adj: any thing, rule, law or set of circumstances that doesn't directly assist the interests of the speaker (Urban dictionary).
3. what you say when your expectations (demands) have not been met (urban dictionary).
If for the sake of our discussion we define 'unfair' according to definition #1 then we would have to discuss the standard or basis for determining the principles of equality and justice.
If for the sake of our discussion we define 'unfair' according to definition #2 then when God says in his word that people with deformities are not allowed to participate in a specific religious ceremony, He is not unfair [he would be applying a law that directly assists the interests of the speaker (i.e. himself)].
If we define 'unfair' according to definition #3 then yes God would be acting 'unfairly' in that your personal expectations have not been met by the law that God has set up. And in this case, in order to argue to the contrary [that God is acting fairly] you would be expecting me to change your personal expectations.
Semantics. I would choose 1 and 3.
I don't believe that god exists. I find the passage just another absolutely ridiculous law a bunch of idiotic bronze age goat-herder witch doctors wrote down, and another excuse to abuse people they find inferior. Your wholly babble book is overflowing with such offensive passages.
I find it offensive. You, coming from the stance that this book is somehow special and "holy", clearly do not. We will never agree on this point.
I'm not expecting YOU to change anything. I didn't write this in this atheist forum to have a debate with a goddamn preacher.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein