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God's opinion of deformities
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RE: God's opinion of deformities
Back when I still believed in god, this lady was a sub in my science class. This was last year, and she kept talking about her child that she once had. She said that she had a child with a deformity that I forget the name of, and as a result life was extremely hard, and she died at 3. She claimed this was the most important experience in her life.


It's a very touching, sad story, especially because despite the child's deformity, it was their first child, and was especially touching because it took them so long to have one, and despite the deformity they loved it and cared for it as much as possible. So i'm not taking anything away from that when I say this.

However, the whole time I couldn't ignore that as a loving parent, she believed that god had done that for a reason. After a deformity like that, she believed that god did that for a reason, to serve purpose in her life.


What I just can't get over is this self entitlement attitude that people who experience this seem to have all the time. This belief that a suffering child who did not deserve any of the unlucky birth defects it had, was somehow not only a result of an all loving supreme being, but that suffering child was there to serve a beneficial purpose in their personal life specifically. That they truly hold this unintentionally cynical thought that their all loving sky-daddy would have this child birthed in to the world, just to suffer in order to teach that specific individual an unidentifiable subjective purpose in their life.

I can't muster up the morality to even imagine myself believing that this being that is my best friend, and is always looking out for me, would have this child suffer just for the sake of me, and without an easily identifiable purpose either, for the simple fact that no one deserves to suffer. So i don't care how good she may have treated the child, and I know this is not of her understanding and she does not see it this way, but I am personally bewildered by the fact that she and many others make light of a clearly tragic situation, and not only make light of it, but make light of it by saying that there is somehow a purpose to this child's suffering all in a selfish self entitled, "everything has to personally happen for a reason, and that reason must be only destined for my understanding" type manner.

And I had this belief, before I knew about any of the arguments against christianity, while going to a christian school, being surrounded 100% by christians, with utterly no deniers to any claims anyone made on the grounds of that school, if they even attempted to involve their belief system. That is why I cannot imagine believing what so many mothers and fathers who give birth to unlucky children with deformities believe. And again, I know that these people do not think this way at all, they are simply mislead, so i'm not taking anything away from her, as she definitely as described, gave the utmost care and treatment to this baby.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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God's opinion of deformities - by drfuzzy - November 18, 2015 at 7:41 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by The Valkyrie - November 18, 2015 at 8:50 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Sejanus - November 18, 2015 at 8:58 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by vorlon13 - November 18, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by dyresand - November 18, 2015 at 9:10 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by KevinM1 - November 18, 2015 at 11:55 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 19, 2015 at 12:27 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Cecelia - November 19, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Minimalist - November 19, 2015 at 7:59 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by vorlon13 - November 19, 2015 at 8:19 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by dyresand - November 20, 2015 at 1:55 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by orangebox21 - November 25, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by drfuzzy - November 25, 2015 at 3:24 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by orangebox21 - November 25, 2015 at 5:43 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by drfuzzy - November 25, 2015 at 6:58 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by orangebox21 - November 27, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Ravenshire - November 28, 2015 at 3:45 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by KevinM1 - November 28, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Crossless1 - November 28, 2015 at 2:02 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by drfuzzy - November 28, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by TheRealJoeFish - November 25, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Joods - November 25, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by vorlon13 - November 25, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by drfuzzy - November 25, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Minimalist - November 25, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by CapnAwesome - November 25, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by downbeatplumb - November 25, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by brewer - November 25, 2015 at 4:59 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by vorlon13 - November 25, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by robvalue - November 25, 2015 at 6:13 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by vorlon13 - November 25, 2015 at 9:59 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by KevinM1 - November 25, 2015 at 7:07 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 28, 2015 at 1:38 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by robvalue - November 26, 2015 at 4:34 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Joods - November 26, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 28, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by robvalue - November 28, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Athene - November 29, 2015 at 2:36 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 28, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by BrokenQuill92 - November 28, 2015 at 7:26 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Athene - November 28, 2015 at 9:11 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by robvalue - November 28, 2015 at 11:07 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 28, 2015 at 11:12 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by dyresand - November 29, 2015 at 2:28 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by robvalue - November 28, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by orangebox21 - November 29, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Ravenshire - November 29, 2015 at 4:09 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 29, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by robvalue - November 29, 2015 at 3:51 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 29, 2015 at 4:01 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Heat - November 29, 2015 at 4:17 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by robvalue - November 29, 2015 at 4:28 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by KevinM1 - November 30, 2015 at 3:54 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 29, 2015 at 4:31 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by robvalue - November 29, 2015 at 4:33 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 29, 2015 at 4:42 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by robvalue - November 29, 2015 at 4:58 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by RoadRunner79 - November 29, 2015 at 4:37 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Grandizer - November 29, 2015 at 5:49 pm
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by RoadRunner79 - November 30, 2015 at 12:30 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by Grandizer - November 30, 2015 at 3:06 am
RE: God's opinion of deformities - by drfuzzy - November 30, 2015 at 1:42 am

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