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Why was Michael Jackson stigmatised so harshly?
RE: Why was Michael Jackson stigmatised so harshly?
(November 3, 2016 at 11:02 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(November 2, 2016 at 6:46 pm)Aractus Wrote: Right, let's take this a whole step further. In 1969 Denmark became the first, and only country, to legalise all forms of pornography. Companies like ColorClimax produced traditional porn, others produced child pornography - legally. Denmark realised their mistake and banned child pornography production effective 1/1/1980. However by that time it is estimated that at least 10-20% of Danes (IIRC) had viewed child porn at some time in the 1970's.

You wouldn't claim that everyone who accessed the said material was a child predator would you?

It depends on why they accessed it. If they thought they were watching an adult film and it happened to include children, then no. However, if they actively sought it out, then yes, that makes them a child predator. Something being technically legal doesn't make it right or moral.

Quote:The material mentioned in the link is not child pornography. It is true that it can be used to groom children, I'm not disputing that, but there's actually nothing wrong with Michael simply enjoying reading the magazines that have unclothed children in it. It's not illegal, it's not morally wrong. It's not a sexualised content. In fact, the content could just as easily be used as evidence against child molestation: where are the child abuse images that MJ would have had if he was a predator? It's hard to argue that MJ wouldn't have child abuse images if he was a predator, given that the vast majority of people who are convicted of child sex offences are found to possess child abuse images as well.

You seem to be looking at the list of items individually, rather that looking at the entire list and putting it in context. Having maybe a few books containing non-sexual nude photos of children doesn't make one a child predator, I agree. However, this was a guy who had an extensive collection of it, coupled with pornographic materials featuring young "barely legal" models, "images of nude adults with children’s faces morphed on top", AND he was known to have children sleep over in his bed (regardless of his claim that he slept in a cot, not with the children, though that's ultimately unprovable either way). When you look at all of that as a whole, I think all kind of attempts at justification fly out the window.

Yeah it's kind of hard to ignore all that, sadly...
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Why was Michael Jackson stigmatised so harshly? - by Aractus - November 2, 2016 at 1:35 am
RE: Why was Michael Jackson stigmatised so harshly? - by Catholic_Lady - November 3, 2016 at 11:54 am
RE: Why was Michael Jackson stigmatised so harshly? - by Cato - November 2, 2016 at 11:48 pm

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