RE: Damned Muslims
October 28, 2010 at 3:46 pm
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2010 at 3:55 pm by Cerrone.)
(October 28, 2010 at 12:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Sol, Rome had been xtian for 150 years before it fell and in that time it gradually became little more than a facade of its former power. The reasons for its fall (militarily) had little to do with xtians but with decisions made by Constantine before he ever gave that bunch of shitheads any real power. The Eastern Roman Empire lasted for 1,000 years longer and did not fall to "pagan" tribes but to the Ottoman Turks.
Try studying some history instead of wasting your time reading that fucking bible.
As someone who's spent most of their life enveloped in ancient history and who thinks the Romans were beyond reproach, I don't think that the Roman Empire ever truely fell. It still stands today, except we know it as the catholic church. It's my opinion the Romans came to realise that they could never achieve military victories over their countless opponents- scores of hostile tribes in europe, africa and beyond mesopotamia, so instead of waging an eternal bloody war to bring the world under their control the Romans adopted christianity and spread it throughout the unconquered territories in order to pacify the savages and bring them under their control without having the expense of wasting men and equipment trying to defeat bandit tribes. It's not like any general was going to spend thousands of denarii on a military campaign to defeat these tribes when the tribes didnt have anything worth taking to make the effort worthwhile. Fast forward five hundred years and you've got the monarchs of europe begging the pope in Rome for favours, and the armies of europe waging war on the muslims under the orders of Rome.
So to put it simply; the Romans eventually realised that there was no point waging war on barbarians when it was so easy to delude them into passivity under christianity.
(October 24, 2010 at 7:17 am)solja247 Wrote:Quote:Is this idea in any peer reviewed journals? or credible books? I think not.
And that doesnt mean a fucking thing.
[quote='Rayaan' pid='102148' dateline='1288294150']
You'll will see what happens after you die. Don't say I didn't warn ya.
That's utterly ridiculous.
(October 28, 2010 at 3:29 pm)Rayaan Wrote: When the disbelievers are brought back to life, they will ask God to give them another chance to let them live another life, but it's going to be too late for that and He's not going to listen to them anymore. In the Quran, it says: "Until, when death comes to one of them, he says: 'My Lord, send me back (to life); In order that I may work righteousness in the things I neglected.' But nay! It is but a word that he speaks; and before them is a barrier until the day when they are raised up" (Surah 23:99-100).
If that ever happened to me and i ended up in your afterlife Rayaan, the first thing i'd do would be to break Gods jaw, just on general principle. He's a giant douchebag if he does exist. And if that makes me a devil, then chain me up next to Prometheus and all the others who were friends to man.