RE: Damned Muslims
April 13, 2017 at 6:57 pm
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2017 at 6:58 pm by Regina.)
(April 13, 2017 at 4:59 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:The thing that gets me when people like you argue this, is that you only ever say this to us. Where are the scores of "that's not real Islam!" type Muslims actually saying this shit to the people they don't consider real Islam? I'm not seeing it.(April 13, 2017 at 4:38 pm)Regina Wrote: I don't believe that utter rot for one second Atlas.
Yes the Quran might say that, in practice though that is not the truth and we can all see it. No person ever hung on charges of heresy, blasphemy, apostasy or homosexuality ever went to the gallows wanting to be put to death. That's complete bollocks.
There is compulsion in a state run by theocratic law, or in immigrant communities in the West where it is pressured to follow the religion, or at least be quiet about it if you don't follow. Period. We can go back and forth about whether that's "authentic" or "true Islam" but that's irrelevant, when it's still the reality millions of people live in across the world.
If the leaders of the Muslim world practiced the Quran, they wouldn't sit on their thrones for one day. That's why they practice cartoonish, Hadith-based sentences, and follow cults and sects that dodge the Quran
And I know why. Because to challenge the Saudi regime, or the Iranian Mullahs, or ISIS, gets you a fast-track one-way ticket to the chopping block. And that brings us neatly back to square 1; there is compulsion in (their) Islam.
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"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie