(January 28, 2011 at 12:54 pm)dqualk Wrote: It allows for others to have unconditional love on the other on their human dignity alone.
Wow.... So this deity will allow a child to be born with some terrible birth defect so OTHER PEOPLE can have "unconditional love"? What an awful thing to do! And, again, what about someone who is born unresponsive and oblivious to what is going on around them? They can't express anything!
Quote: And all those tots that were drowned? They never had a chance to exercise "free will", did they?
Quote:free will means that are actions have real reprucussions. So when somone does something stupid it really affects other people, and often times it affects the innocents.
Wonderful. So this deity drowned children because of the actions of their parents? I'd say that's incredibly horrible and any being that would do such a thing is not worthy of worship.
Quote:In the case of free will and birth defects, God typically allows for the world to continue on in a contingent manner.
I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.
Quote: So drowning swaths of children is justifiable because "at some point in the future something great will occur"? The mind just boggles....
Quote:that and a being like God is the only kind of being that could justifiably take any life.
So your deity gets a pass on committing atrocities? How is killing a child by drowning ever justifiable?
Quote:But further God also knows the sunjunctive actions of each individual. So He would have known what each of those who drowned would have done had they not drowned, and we can assume that they would have been evil, or else God makes a way for them through some other means.
You have to be kidding! The only folks who survived the flood were the 8 people on the ark. You mean to tell me that EVERY ONE of the MILLIONS of children on the planet would have grown up to be evil? What utter crap! And if this is true, why did this deity allow Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot or Jeffrey Dahmer to grow up?
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You're right.... your analogy fails on many levels. The simplest of which is that people voluntarily join a football team. I don't think any children VOLUNTEERED for drowning.
Quote:Children don't volunteer to eat their vegetables but a loving parent will make them anyway.
You're comparing making a child eat his vegetables with drowning a child?
Wow..... just WOW!
And please explain to me how anyone could be a "loving parent" and drown their children.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?