(January 28, 2011 at 5:08 pm)dqualk Wrote: The story of the flood is meant to convey a deeper and more profound truth. The intent is not to get caught in the little details. The deeper and more profound truth is that are sins displease God and make us worthy of death.
Oh, please! This deity creates people who he knows will sin, which displeases him, which makes us worthy of death.
Give me a break!
This is nothing but delusional mumbo jumbo.
Quote:It is also meant to teach that even though God will punish man He will never entirely destroy them.
How comforting.
Quote:Whether or not the flood happened is not so important.
It didn't.
Quote:And whether God was the primary agent in the flood is not so important.
How can it NOT be? If the flood really happened and it was really caused by your deity, he is a mass murderer on a scale that dwarfs Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot combined!
Quote:Many of the stories of the Bible are myths
I'd say that ALL the stories of the Bible are myths.
Quote:that teach us a deeper and more profound truth.
And what "profound truth" is there to be found in a story of mass murder?
Quote:I think it is funny that you would say when is drowing a child justifiable but all morality is subjective?
I would say that drowning a child is always unjustified and immoral. But that's just me. I see you don't agree.
Quote:Which means it is justifiable when the individual thinks it is within atheism.
Uh.... no.
Quote:Within an objective system of morality one can logically conclude that God has power over life and death of all things for many justifiable reasons.
Just because one has the power of life and death doesn't make it moral to use that power whenever the whim strikes.
Quote:For one thing He created us and gave us the gift of life, and that gift belongs to Him. He can take it whenever He wants.
Can you prove this deity created us? Yeah, didn't think so.
And if I were to concede your point, try explaining why this deity felt the need to drown everything on the planet when he could have simply waved his hand and expunged all the bad people in the world without drowning babies. This would be like burning down your house to get rid of a few mice. Your deity sounds like a retard.
Quote:Further we are all under a covenant that says if we do not sin God will bless us, all of us sin, and yes all children will sin at some point. This means they broke their end of the bargain.
Now explain what "sin" a baby or toddler could possibly commit...
Quote:God owes nobody anything, and this is a logically consistent and sensible statement.
Bull. If I bring a child into the world I am responsible for caring for that child until it reaches maturity and can take care of itself. If, as you insist, your deity created us, I would say he's responsible for caring for his creation. Not just sitting back waiting for us to fuck up so he can smite us.
Quote:However, God out of His love for us sent His only Son to save the world from condemnation.
You do realize there's no evidence that Jesus was a real person?
Quote:And Christ paid the price so that sin can no longer keep us from heaven. Only our hard hateful hearts can keep us from Divine bliss.
What hooey. Your deity sent himself down to Earth to sacrifice himself to himself so that he could remove a curse on people that he himself put there.
Yeah, makes perfect sense to me!
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?