(December 3, 2018 at 12:59 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: The flaw in your arguments is you think that if a historic Jesus existed there must be corroboration of the supposed miracles he performed and his supposed resurrection. But secular historians don't believe Jesus did any of that in the first place, or at least admit there is no historical evidence for it apart from Christian devotional literature. Nevertheless, the question of the historicity of Jesus has to be separated from mythology that surrounds him.
Mythology also surrounds other historical figures, especially Roman emperors like Julius Caesar, Augustus and Vespasian. That hardly impugns their historicity of those figures.
It has to be remember that the historic Jesus was not an aristocrat or a royal. He was an apocalyptic Galilean prophet in a land and society teeming with such figures. Jesus was obviously influenced by another apocalyptic prophet - John the Baptizer - who was indeed an historic figure even mentioned by Josephus.
What's the point? If Jesus the miracle man didn't exist, but Jesus the apocalyptic preacher did, why would we care? Nobody gives a shit about the historical Jesus. He's just a prop used to shore up crappy arguments about miracle Jesus. If Jesus was just a man, I'm happy to embrace that possibility. But that's not what I'm actually being asked to embrace. The historical Jesus argument is just a moronic bait and switch.