RE: Damned Catholics
December 3, 2018 at 2:24 pm
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2018 at 2:26 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 3, 2018 at 2:04 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: How can I look up something you just made up?Maybe you should look that up, too?
Quote:The historians like Bart Ehrman:Ehrman has nothing to tell us about any meeting that isn't found in the fairy tale itself.
Quote:So what? Scholars don't dismiss fragments. There is a general scholarly consensus that the epistles of Paul were composed early on, in the 50s.Theres a general scholarly supposition, but perhaps you should look into what that supposition is based on and what is actually being supposed than to drone on endlessly about the consensus of scholars? Peole do that all the time, not knowing that "the consensus of scholars" in this case is a euphemism for vast disagreement between scholars who must all propose..as a part of insisting that the other guys are wrong..that their jesus is the Real Jesus.
Quote:Exactly my point. "Majority of scholars" does that not mean anything to you?I think that the information from which they draw their inferences, and the strength of those inferences, is far more important than a bunch of people saying something.
Quote:Your opinion doesn't count. I trust the qualified historians like Ehrman and Dale B. Martin.I don't think that you trust their opinions, either...you only defer when you find some statement that comforts you in your beliefs.
Quote:That's how humans are, that's how history is. It's never a neat tidy package. If it was all invented it would be.Yeah, it is funny how "jesus" becomes a nice and tidy little christian package by the time of "john"..innit?
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