Discussion, not Provocation

[Mystic]

You really don't get what I am saying because you are so used being directed on how to think by people who really don't how to.

I am talking about language convention and people being literalists to it now and also limiting paradigms on appropriate ways to respond and a lot is just dumb and makes no sense.

Yes, it's their profession, but they are fools unfortunately with respect to the very thing they are supposed to reflect about and be experts at.

I definitely get what you are saying, and you're 100% right.  People are purposefully obstinate/obtuse/pedantic/disingenuous, and they think that's how discussion is supposed to work.  After all, it's not about an exchange of ideas, it's a game where they keep score by pretending their bullshit is worth a bunch of points even if they know it's bullshit. Politics has certainly taught us that's how it's done.  And I think it's so pervasive now, that people may not be doing it purposefully.  It's just the standard.

Yes, and language often uses hyperbola or shorthand to express things and humans use to be able to sincerely understand a person. Also, in talking, people assume a lot of hidden premises that are implied.  They don't restate things people of their time take for granted all the time.

The eloquence of so many languages is being destroyed.  And idioms and parables are not bad things.

Language is supposed to convey and express.  

Also once a thing is clarified and generally people understand the limitation and angle of a phrase, you don't have to restate the limitation and angle every time. Once or twice is sufficient in the book or otherwise, it sounds horrible.