Why does science always upstage God?

[Huggy Bear]

I'm done . It's like arguing with with a snowman .

Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it?  We're past Huggy not understanding 5th grade science.  We're now at the point where he doesn't understand words and their meanings.

Oh so we want to talk about not understanding words? How about I bring up you and Pandaemoniums ignorance on the meaning of 'except'... smh

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There are no rules to follow.... except you must repent and be baptized.

Yeah so there aren't any rules apart from the rules.

Fuck me. Fuck everything.

Those are the exceptions, hence the word "except"

which only has to be completed once btw.

So when you said there were no rules 'except' the rules, you had temporarily gone insane?

Right. Fuck everything.

Life must be very hard for you if you cant understand a simple statement...

read slowly

"There are no rules to follow.... except you must repent and be baptized."

meaning there aren't any rules to follow as a christian, except you must FIRST repent and be baptized. You must do THOSE before you can even call yourself a christian in the first place... Got it?

Yeah Huggy, I get it. You said there were no rules and then said there were some rules.

If you need to post a few more times to clarify to everyone how that works be my guest. We don't mind.

If you need any help please let us all know. You can look up how to spell contradiction on Google.

No I like to responding to you; you have a habit of making a fool out of yourself and you genuinely don't realize it.

"There are no rules to follow.... except you must repent and be baptized."

That statement is NOT a contradiction because I explicitly made an exception.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/except
With the exception (that); used to introduce a clause, phrase or adverb forming an exception or qualification to something previously stated.

ex·cept


1. used before a statement that forms an exception to one just made.
"I didn't tell him anything, except that I needed the money"



I guess that's a contradiction also because this person "didn't tell him anything" except that he told him something?

LOL

Like I said You'll keep on believing you're right despite being proven otherwise.

What was that Esquilax saying about theists again?

The problem with christians- which is fully present in Kitan's OP- is that they never identify that error, which in this case is the root beliefs of their religion. Instead, they ignore the basics of logic in favor of making arguments to get to a preconceived conclusion, rather than using logic to reach whatever conclusion is best. The problem is the exclusive lack of logic that theism demands, were one to attempt to argue for theism.

*emphasis mine*
Pandæmonium seems to exhibit that very same behavior.  

Let's see if Panda will ever get around to admitting his mistake...

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The clause "so far" doesn't mean what Huggy thinks it means.  It doesn't mean "Everything is hunky dory with these wolves, so move along."  It means "These documented problems will inevitably become a problem for the population on the whole."  It's an implication.  It's why the recommendation is for external breeding stock to be introduced, the sooner, the better.

The clause "so far" means there is no SCIENTIFIC DATA to support your claim that 2 wolves cannot produce a thriving population, what you are spewing is unsupported drivel. Since you love to jerk to the idea that science is self correcting, how about you wait until there's actual evidence before you claiming the inevitability of something.

What boggles my mind is that you believe that life somehow evolved from non life and that life has been evolving and adapting for millions of years yet somehow a viable population cannot be produced with only 2 wolves.

Not to mention only the Alpha male and female really only mate, so introducing an "external breeding stock" is no guarantee of anything.

And, it's not like Huggy hasn't been confronted with this before.  We've pointed out what minimum viability usually entails in terms of numbers of breeding pairs (hint: it's a hell of a lot more than what the bible claims was on the impossible Ark), and what will happen if it's not met.  But, he's so consumed with proving us wrong that he's either unwilling or unable to learn and understand.  He's more concerned with shoving his myths in our collective faces than actually understanding the world.

Huggy, like so many theists, is a reverse skeptic.  He immediately buys into shit that cannot be proven, and is more than likely a bunch of bullshit (see: his assumption regarding Marilyn Hickey's missing uterus, Prophet Yaweh's UFO/angel summoning powers, the story of the Ark, etc.), but is skeptical of things directly observed/experimented/measured.  It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.

*emphasis mine*
As I've pointed out there are many other factors used in determining the minimum viable population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_population

This term is used in the fields of biology, ecology, and conservation biology. More specifically, MVP is the smallest possible size at which a biological population can exist without facing extinction from natural disasters or demographic, environmental, or genetic stochasticity