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Why does science always upstage God?
RE: Why does science always upstage God?
(October 7, 2021 at 5:41 pm)ayost Wrote:
(October 8, 2021 at 11:47 am)Soberman921 Wrote: You make a number of statements here as fact with which few if any critical New Testament scholars would agree. For example, the claim that the gospels tell "the same story form different points of view." The vast inconsistencies between the gospel accounts have been documented for centuries, and many of them are quite significant. For example, on what day was Jesus crucified and what were his last words? While some might not be complete inconsistencies, attempts to harmonize them into a single account require tortuous contrivances that defy the principle of analogy and insult reason. Even more important that where the gospels differ is where they are identical, word for word. This is clear evidence they were not independent accounts but were copied from one another. These are works of plagiarism in which the authors of later gospels reworked earlier ones to make them better align with their own theologies.

We have to be honest and create two categories: Believing Scholarship and Unbelieving Scholarship. I know I'm risking an ad hominem argument here, but I'm granting it to both sides so I think its a fair critique. Worldview matters. No one is a neutral truth seeking force. Unbelief has the same blinding qualities that Belief does. I think that's demonstrably true. I want to say that, not as a critique to your argument, but just as a fact to consider when you decide who to listen to.

I think your claim of "vast inconsistencies" is, in my opinion, completely overblown. It's just not a scandal that's plaguing the church. And I have yet to see an inconsistency that I can't easily harmonize. Look, I'm big on consistency. I believe inconsistency is a sign of a failed argument. I try as hard as I can to be consistent. I hate tortuous contrivances. Actually, the reason I settled on Reformed theology is because of tortuous contrivances from other theologies. For example, I listened to people try to Biblically demonstrate man's free will and it became such a twisted mess of tortuous contrivances that I couldn't take it. Reformed theologians would just read through a text and let the text say what it says. I'll be the first to take my foot off the gas when I reach a tortuous contrivance. And then Catholicism, SMH.

Gospels quoting each other just doesn't bother me. As far as "plagiarism in which the authors of later gospels reworked earlier ones to make them better align with their own theologies", when you say, to me, this it sounds like the most extreme way to state the fact that the authors probably referenced each others works. Like there are so many assumed arguments in that statement. I spend a lot of time on this subject. Mostly to defend the faith, but also because I find it fascinating.

And this is why I say worldview matters. I don't think one of us is smarter than the other. I think we see the exact same evidence and come to different conclusions for very good reasons. But I also believe worldview is at the heart of the matter.

(October 8, 2021 at 11:47 am)Soberman921 Wrote: New Testament Chrisitan scholar Richard Bauckham holds to traditional authorship of the gospels but has admitted, “That the texts of our Gospels are close to the eyewitness reports of the words and deeds of Jesus — runs counter to almost all recent New Testament scholarship. . . . [T]he prevalent view is that a long period of oral transmission in the churches intervened between whatever the eyewitnesses said and the Jesus traditions as they reached the Evangelists. No doubt the eyewitnesses started the process of oral tradition, but it passed through many retellings, reformulations, and expansions before the Evangelists themselves did their own editorial work on it.”

Here's the thing about this statement: it absolutely cannot be proven. You can't trace oral traditions from 2000 years ago. They were oral, they no longer exist. Show me the evidence of editorial work on an oral tradition. This is pure speculation.

(October 8, 2021 at 11:47 am)Soberman921 Wrote: Also, what is your basis for claiming the gospel writers "were all violently killed instead of recanting because the were so sold out to what they believed?" I'm not aware of a single record of any gospel writer being violently killed because of his Christian faith after refusing to recant. This Christian persecution claim is a myth.

Ok, I will grant you that it's Christian tradition. It's not completely without foundation but also not historical fact. There are early church writings that reference Paul's beheading and Peter's crucifixion. But it's not definitive. Fair enough. But how do you emphatically state it's a myth? That's no more provable than its the truth. I'll grant there is scant evidence and you have to decide what you believe. Can you say "It is probably a myth"? but again, worldview matters.

But really the thing that struck me is how do you quote a scholar about the history of a 2000 oral tradition that absolutely, with out a doubt cannot be verified (or falsified) and then in the next breath challenge my assertion that the apostles were martyred? I'm not aware of a single record of any oral gospel tradition being edited by an Evangelical. I feel like that knife cuts two ways.

(October 8, 2021 at 12:32 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote:
(October 8, 2021 at 11:31 am)ayost Wrote: Again, without something definitive showing me that the gospels cannot be true, I have no reason to doubt what they say is true.  

When I was first a believer, I asked myself "why would the gospel writers write this if it wasn't true?".  For a while, I used the argument that someone writing about God wouldn't actually be lying, or they would invalidate everything they were writing.

Later, I realized that I was incorrect as to the nature of religious writing and myth.  The purpose of the writers has never been to be historians, nor scientists.  They are story makers!  They have a purpose for their story -- to make the story good so that people will read it, and to espouse their religious views.

The gospels are written as stories.  They used an omniscient narrator.  They may be based off of earlier texts, but they came after Paul, and Paul seems to have known nothing about what the gospels write about.  The writers are not "eye witnesses".  The authors likely weren't even alive at the time.

There were many gospels written -- it was an archetype.  The gospels disagree about many things, including the nature of Jesus, and what he commands.  Why would all these writers do this - they can't all be right!  Didn't the "other" writers know they were lying?  Well, that is misinterpreting the nature of religious writing.  It was never meant to be accurate -- it was meant to evangelize.  Writers take existing stories and mold them into the form that best promotes their views.

This is the way of religious stories the world over, in every religion.  The stories are legends and myths, intended to entertain and promote a particular set of religious views, or as a societal control.

I highly doubt the gospels were written by eye-witnesses, but even if they were, the idea that "eye witnesses never lie" would mean that Mormonism is absolutely true.

This is pure speculation. I'm not even going to respond to this.

(October 8, 2021 at 12:41 pm)Soberman921 Wrote: There is one more point I want to make about gospel authorship.

Papias, who, according to Eusebius, wrote in the early second century (maybe around 130 CE), was the earliest to name Mark and Matthew as the authors of the gospels that bear their names. Papias allegedly said Mark was Peter’s scribe/interpreter, which he learned from an associate of John the apostle. But we don’t actually have any writings from Papias – only Eusebius who wrote in 320 CE. Eusebius said that Papias’ writings were “fantastical” and “of a rather mythical character,” including “strange parables of the savior,” and described Papias as being of “very small intelligence.” Most of what Papias said is universally rejected by Biblical scholars. Also, church fathers continued to reference Mark’s Gospel for decades after Papias wrote without attributing it to Mark. So 300 years after Jesus died, we have an author quoting another author he disparages as unreliable from 200 years before that who describes a book written by a friend of a friend in a manner that doesn’t match the book we’re talking about. It is interesting that, according to Eusebius (also considered unreliable by most biblical scholars), Papias said that Mark’s sole purpose was “to leave out nothing that he heard.” If Papias is to be believed, the fact that his is the shortest gospel undermines those of Matthew, Luke and John which added many additional details.

I'm not basing my belief of Papias or Esuabius which is why I didn't copy paste this from the internet. I have no issue with you not believing Papias.

(October 8, 2021 at 12:11 pm)Soberman921 Wrote:
(October 8, 2021 at 11:31 am)ayost Wrote: Again, without something definitive showing me that the gospels cannot be true, I have no reason to doubt what they say is true.  

So here is where I would take issue with your approach because that's not the way historians approach ancient literature generally and I doubt the way you approach the scripture of other religions such as Islam. Historians don't take ancient works at face value until shown incontrovertible proof of falsity or as an all or nothing proposition. They look at many indicia of reliability and approach each claim individually. Many accounts of Roman emperors include clearly fantastical elements. Historians can tentatively accept some of these claims but, applying the principle of analogy, reject others as likely fabricated. Fantastical claims in ancient works were common, and that is one reason they are so easily rejected. So I would say there are very good reasons to reject the miracle claims of the gospels, including the resurrection. That doesn't require us to deny a historical Jesus but rather to temper what we believe about his life and death through a principled set of criteria that we apply to other works of ancient literature.

My original statement still stands. I don't live in a world where all fantastical things are dismissed. Worldview matters.
I actually have no doubt that Muhammad saw what he said he saw.
I already stated my many indicia of NT reliability in another post. Not sure who it was to, but it's out there.
I stated why I believe the reliability of the NT. if you want to change my mind I need something other than skepticism.
Skepticism just isn't compelling.
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RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Anomalocaris - January 4, 2018 at 1:28 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by GUBU - January 5, 2018 at 4:35 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ignoramus - January 4, 2018 at 10:14 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by polymath257 - January 4, 2018 at 11:34 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by emjay - January 4, 2018 at 12:36 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by emjay - January 4, 2018 at 1:06 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by GUBU - January 5, 2018 at 7:00 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by emjay - January 4, 2018 at 3:11 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Whateverist - January 4, 2018 at 9:53 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Haipule - January 4, 2018 at 11:18 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Whateverist - January 5, 2018 at 1:23 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by John V - January 4, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Haipule - January 4, 2018 at 6:11 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Abaddon_ire - January 4, 2018 at 9:32 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Amarok - January 4, 2018 at 9:52 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Haipule - January 5, 2018 at 2:15 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Amarok - January 5, 2018 at 4:47 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Haipule - January 5, 2018 at 3:59 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Haipule - January 6, 2018 at 9:29 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Haipule - January 7, 2018 at 7:15 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by JackRussell - January 7, 2018 at 2:09 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Catharsis - March 15, 2019 at 1:42 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by no one - March 15, 2019 at 1:55 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Catharsis - March 15, 2019 at 3:53 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Fireball - March 15, 2019 at 10:19 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by x1122 - March 20, 2019 at 2:26 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Yonadav - March 20, 2019 at 3:11 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by comet - August 2, 2019 at 10:30 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Aegon - August 2, 2019 at 1:10 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Prycejosh1987 - January 20, 2020 at 4:38 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by zebo-the-fat - January 20, 2020 at 5:08 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Paleophyte - January 20, 2020 at 7:08 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Valkyrie - January 20, 2020 at 9:03 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ignoramus - January 20, 2020 at 5:40 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by no one - January 20, 2020 at 5:49 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 20, 2021 at 11:15 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - August 21, 2021 at 7:15 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by vulcanlogician - August 20, 2021 at 11:58 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 5:13 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 5:25 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 5:22 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 5:31 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - August 21, 2021 at 7:09 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 7:14 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - August 21, 2021 at 7:29 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 7:35 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - August 21, 2021 at 8:23 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 8:30 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 8:35 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Gwaithmir - August 21, 2021 at 8:18 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ravenshire - August 22, 2021 at 10:13 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 7:27 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Foxaèr - August 21, 2021 at 7:28 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - August 21, 2021 at 7:35 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 7:37 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 8:59 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 9:30 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 9:55 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by vulcanlogician - August 21, 2021 at 10:07 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Foxaèr - August 21, 2021 at 9:02 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 9:07 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Foxaèr - August 21, 2021 at 9:09 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 10:56 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 11:31 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - August 21, 2021 at 11:42 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 11:47 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 11:48 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - August 21, 2021 at 11:57 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 12:07 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 12:13 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 12:17 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - August 21, 2021 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 3:59 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - August 21, 2021 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 4:05 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ahriman - August 21, 2021 at 4:35 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - August 21, 2021 at 5:18 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - August 21, 2021 at 4:37 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 4:29 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Gwaithmir - August 21, 2021 at 8:02 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 8:07 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Gwaithmir - August 21, 2021 at 8:16 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 21, 2021 at 8:17 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Gwaithmir - August 22, 2021 at 12:06 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 22, 2021 at 5:59 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Valkyrie - August 22, 2021 at 6:05 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ravenshire - August 22, 2021 at 10:34 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ignoramus - August 22, 2021 at 4:24 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 22, 2021 at 6:06 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Gwaithmir - August 22, 2021 at 7:30 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mashmont - August 22, 2021 at 7:32 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Spongebob - August 22, 2021 at 9:06 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - August 22, 2021 at 10:31 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Spongebob - August 22, 2021 at 11:09 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 12:20 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 12:41 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 12:57 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 1:06 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 1:17 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 1:30 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 1:42 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 1:50 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by pocaracas - September 25, 2021 at 7:03 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mister Agenda - September 27, 2021 at 11:10 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Spongebob - September 24, 2021 at 6:26 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Foxaèr - August 22, 2021 at 7:55 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 11:57 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by GUBU - September 30, 2021 at 8:00 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by arewethereyet - September 24, 2021 at 11:59 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 12:01 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by arewethereyet - September 24, 2021 at 12:02 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 12:03 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Fireball - September 24, 2021 at 12:06 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 12:07 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 12:05 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 12:07 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 12:15 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 12:22 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Mister Agenda - September 27, 2021 at 11:05 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 7, 2021 at 10:01 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Spongebob - October 7, 2021 at 11:29 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 7, 2021 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Spongebob - October 7, 2021 at 4:22 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 7, 2021 at 4:46 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - October 7, 2021 at 6:03 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Spongebob - October 8, 2021 at 11:23 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 11, 2021 at 10:58 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by HappySkeptic - October 11, 2021 at 11:20 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Spongebob - October 11, 2021 at 2:35 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 24, 2021 at 12:21 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 12:21 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 24, 2021 at 12:29 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 12:31 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 12:31 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 12:46 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by arewethereyet - September 24, 2021 at 12:52 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 12:44 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 1:07 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 12:52 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 12:59 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 1:07 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 1:17 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 1:25 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 1:39 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 1:47 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 2:00 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 2:06 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 2:21 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 1:20 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 1:31 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 1:26 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - September 24, 2021 at 1:29 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 1:33 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 1:46 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 1:56 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 2:04 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 2:10 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 2:27 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 2:43 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 2:52 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 2:54 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 3:06 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 1:51 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 2:02 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 2:01 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 2:08 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 2:11 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 2:12 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 2:17 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 2:22 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 2:38 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 2:28 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 2:35 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 2:38 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 2:48 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 2:45 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 2:45 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 2:53 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 2:57 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 2:50 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 2:54 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 3:07 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 3:18 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 3:23 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 4:45 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 4:13 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 3:01 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 3:14 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 3:34 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 6:19 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by arewethereyet - September 24, 2021 at 6:21 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 7:21 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 6:32 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - September 24, 2021 at 9:40 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by arewethereyet - September 24, 2021 at 9:44 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 9:49 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Fake Messiah - September 25, 2021 at 7:09 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 25, 2021 at 9:07 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Fake Messiah - September 25, 2021 at 11:08 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2021 at 10:06 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Gwaithmir - September 25, 2021 at 7:53 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - September 25, 2021 at 9:25 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 25, 2021 at 9:39 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2021 at 12:20 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by UniverseCaptain - September 25, 2021 at 10:31 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Foxaèr - September 25, 2021 at 11:40 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by LadyForCamus - September 25, 2021 at 11:53 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Spongebob - September 26, 2021 at 10:13 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Anomalocaris - September 26, 2021 at 11:31 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Foxaèr - September 26, 2021 at 12:00 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by LadyForCamus - September 27, 2021 at 1:13 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 28, 2021 at 11:21 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 28, 2021 at 12:42 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 28, 2021 at 1:03 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 28, 2021 at 1:40 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 28, 2021 at 5:52 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Jehanne - September 28, 2021 at 5:56 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 29, 2021 at 11:38 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - September 29, 2021 at 11:56 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 28, 2021 at 6:04 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 29, 2021 at 9:04 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Fake Messiah - September 28, 2021 at 4:02 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by vulcanlogician - September 28, 2021 at 9:31 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 29, 2021 at 10:32 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by vulcanlogician - September 29, 2021 at 10:47 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Fake Messiah - September 29, 2021 at 11:31 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by vulcanlogician - September 29, 2021 at 11:59 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 29, 2021 at 12:28 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by vulcanlogician - September 29, 2021 at 12:46 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 29, 2021 at 12:59 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 27, 2021 at 1:57 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - September 27, 2021 at 2:03 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 27, 2021 at 2:42 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 27, 2021 at 3:03 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by HappySkeptic - September 27, 2021 at 3:19 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 27, 2021 at 2:12 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - September 27, 2021 at 2:17 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - September 26, 2021 at 2:58 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Gwaithmir - September 26, 2021 at 7:52 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 26, 2021 at 8:07 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by arewethereyet - September 26, 2021 at 11:57 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 26, 2021 at 10:49 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by no one - September 26, 2021 at 12:02 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Anomalocaris - September 26, 2021 at 10:19 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 27, 2021 at 11:07 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 27, 2021 at 2:19 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - September 27, 2021 at 9:25 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by MadJW - September 29, 2021 at 11:58 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Soberman921 - September 29, 2021 at 2:23 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Brian37 - September 29, 2021 at 2:38 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Soberman921 - September 29, 2021 at 2:55 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 7, 2021 at 11:11 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 7, 2021 at 12:13 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Spongebob - October 7, 2021 at 3:19 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - October 7, 2021 at 11:35 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 7, 2021 at 2:56 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - October 7, 2021 at 3:26 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by HappySkeptic - October 7, 2021 at 4:50 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 7, 2021 at 5:00 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by HappySkeptic - October 7, 2021 at 5:54 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 8, 2021 at 11:31 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by HappySkeptic - October 8, 2021 at 12:12 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 11, 2021 at 12:51 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - October 8, 2021 at 12:18 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Soberman921 - October 7, 2021 at 3:48 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 7, 2021 at 4:14 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - October 7, 2021 at 4:25 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by zebo-the-fat - October 7, 2021 at 4:44 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 7, 2021 at 4:50 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 7, 2021 at 5:41 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by pocaracas - October 7, 2021 at 6:07 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 8, 2021 at 9:43 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 11, 2021 at 1:04 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 11, 2021 at 1:12 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2021 at 3:13 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 11, 2021 at 3:21 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2021 at 7:33 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Soberman921 - October 7, 2021 at 5:37 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 8, 2021 at 8:58 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by vulcanlogician - October 8, 2021 at 12:15 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Soberman921 - October 7, 2021 at 6:08 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - October 8, 2021 at 10:02 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 8, 2021 at 10:08 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by LadyForCamus - October 8, 2021 at 11:00 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 11, 2021 at 12:52 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Soberman921 - October 8, 2021 at 11:47 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 8, 2021 at 12:45 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by HappySkeptic - October 8, 2021 at 1:30 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - October 8, 2021 at 1:43 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Soberman921 - October 8, 2021 at 12:11 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by HappySkeptic - October 8, 2021 at 12:32 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Soberman921 - October 8, 2021 at 12:28 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Soberman921 - October 8, 2021 at 12:41 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 11, 2021 at 12:23 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Spongebob - October 8, 2021 at 5:50 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ranjr - October 8, 2021 at 6:09 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ranjr - October 8, 2021 at 11:58 pm
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RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 11, 2021 at 4:09 pm
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RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 12, 2021 at 7:48 am
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RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - October 11, 2021 at 6:52 pm
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RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by pocaracas - October 12, 2021 at 8:01 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 12, 2021 at 7:52 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by LadyForCamus - October 12, 2021 at 12:19 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - October 12, 2021 at 8:00 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Abaddon_ire - October 12, 2021 at 11:40 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 12, 2021 at 11:52 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by vulcanlogician - October 12, 2021 at 12:12 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Fake Messiah - October 12, 2021 at 12:12 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Abaddon_ire - October 12, 2021 at 12:17 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by LadyForCamus - October 12, 2021 at 12:13 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ayost - October 12, 2021 at 12:16 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by vulcanlogician - October 12, 2021 at 12:18 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by arewethereyet - October 12, 2021 at 12:21 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by LadyForCamus - October 12, 2021 at 12:23 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Fake Messiah - October 12, 2021 at 12:21 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 12, 2021 at 8:51 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - October 12, 2021 at 10:29 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by vulcanlogician - October 12, 2021 at 10:52 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by brewer - October 13, 2021 at 11:55 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 12, 2021 at 10:46 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 12, 2021 at 11:22 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by pocaracas - October 13, 2021 at 7:55 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Deesse23 - October 13, 2021 at 10:58 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Ferrocyanide - October 17, 2021 at 11:32 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 21, 2022 at 6:52 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 22, 2022 at 11:38 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 23, 2022 at 9:20 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 8:08 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:46 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:17 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 22, 2022 at 12:05 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 22, 2022 at 1:25 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 23, 2022 at 9:02 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 9:54 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by GUBU - July 23, 2022 at 6:27 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 23, 2022 at 9:51 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by GUBU - July 23, 2022 at 11:57 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 8:23 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 24, 2022 at 8:55 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:07 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 24, 2022 at 9:33 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 6:45 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 25, 2022 at 7:49 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 9:47 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 25, 2022 at 10:33 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 26, 2022 at 9:21 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 26, 2022 at 9:36 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 26, 2022 at 10:22 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 26, 2022 at 10:29 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 27, 2022 at 10:04 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 27, 2022 at 10:12 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Astreja - July 28, 2022 at 1:20 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 6:26 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Aegon - July 28, 2022 at 10:19 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Astreja - July 28, 2022 at 11:45 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 8:57 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 8:41 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Astreja - July 28, 2022 at 11:42 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 8:46 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 9:15 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Nay_Sayer - July 28, 2022 at 9:28 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 9:56 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Nay_Sayer - July 28, 2022 at 9:57 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 9:38 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by GUBU - July 28, 2022 at 2:14 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 6:29 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 8:30 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 9:49 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Aegon - July 27, 2022 at 12:09 pm
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RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 22, 2022 at 12:27 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 22, 2022 at 11:28 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 22, 2022 at 11:32 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Aegon - July 22, 2022 at 12:08 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 22, 2022 at 1:15 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 23, 2022 at 8:52 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Aegon - July 22, 2022 at 1:56 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 23, 2022 at 9:30 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Aegon - July 24, 2022 at 7:31 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 22, 2022 at 1:18 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 22, 2022 at 1:27 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 23, 2022 at 9:48 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 8:30 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:03 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 7:40 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by LostLocke - July 23, 2022 at 12:32 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:05 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:14 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 23, 2022 at 9:45 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 23, 2022 at 9:28 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 8:16 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 24, 2022 at 8:52 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:26 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ignoramus - July 24, 2022 at 5:00 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ignoramus - July 25, 2022 at 2:14 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:33 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:37 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:48 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:09 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:12 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 24, 2022 at 9:05 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:19 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Nay_Sayer - July 24, 2022 at 4:38 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 9:55 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 10:09 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 10:13 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 24, 2022 at 10:18 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Nay_Sayer - July 24, 2022 at 9:28 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 24, 2022 at 9:37 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 6:33 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 9:16 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 9:20 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 24, 2022 at 11:20 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 9:21 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Lek - July 25, 2022 at 12:53 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 9:35 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 9:39 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 26, 2022 at 9:34 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by GUBU - July 25, 2022 at 6:49 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 9:27 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 9:57 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 25, 2022 at 10:02 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by pocaracas - July 26, 2022 at 4:20 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 26, 2022 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by pocaracas - July 27, 2022 at 3:05 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Lek - July 25, 2022 at 11:55 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 26, 2022 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 26, 2022 at 9:39 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 26, 2022 at 10:09 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by ignoramus - July 26, 2022 at 6:57 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 26, 2022 at 10:16 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 27, 2022 at 10:02 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Astreja - July 27, 2022 at 12:07 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Astreja - July 27, 2022 at 9:43 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 27, 2022 at 10:15 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 27, 2022 at 10:24 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 28, 2022 at 1:42 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 29, 2022 at 12:54 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 28, 2022 at 9:16 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Nay_Sayer - July 28, 2022 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Billy Bob - July 28, 2022 at 9:51 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Angrboda - July 28, 2022 at 11:03 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Nay_Sayer - July 29, 2022 at 11:45 am
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by Nay_Sayer - July 29, 2022 at 12:00 pm
RE: Why does science always upstage God? - by LinuxGal - October 26, 2022 at 10:15 pm

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