Why does science always upstage God?

[HappySkeptic]

I'm sure you can explain your moral system, just not justify it. I'm also sure it will bounce around like flubber when I start to challenge it.

Are you going to say that morality comes from God?  Do you mean via commandments, or do you mean by "god illuminating our souls with the ability to know what is good".

Both are easy to shoot down.  Command morality negates the ability for moral choice, and if we follow the bible's commands to the letter, we will do lots of things we would consider immoral today.  And, if God did indeed illuminate our souls, why isn't there only one universally-held moral code throughout history and culture?

Morality and ethics are messy, because survival and social interaction is a complex system.  A morality that allows the ultra-selfish to win will fail the test of reality.  A morality that destroys social co-operation will fail the test of reality.  A morality that is too altruistic will fail the test of reality.  Morality cannot be described except in terms of social interaction -- something involving many individuals with different traits, needs, and wants. 

Morality is messy, but what allows it to exist is empathy for others, and the test of reality when applied universally.

What bothers me isn't that fraud is not nice. Or that fraud is mean. For fifteen thousand years, fraud and short sighted thinking have never, ever worked. Not once.

-- Mark Baum, "The Big Short"