RE: Why does science always upstage God?
October 11, 2021 at 7:32 pm
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2021 at 7:33 pm by HappySkeptic.)
(October 11, 2021 at 7:07 pm)ayost Wrote: So an we all see how your morality is completely subjective. There’s so many unknowns and variables and there’s no way to know what provides the most suffering or the least suffering. You’re literally just making it up as you go. This is the opposite of an objective morality. It’s a mish mash of whatever feels right at the time. Which is fine, I just need you to be consistent and commit all the way. In a world where morality is subjective you have no right to complain about anything that anybody does in your worldview.
Would you go around murdering just because you don't believe in God? Given that most people don't believe in Jesus, how it is possible that most people don't go around murdering, and every society has rules against it? Is a god the only possible explanation?
Sure, a society could choose to see the movie "The Purge" as a holy inspiration, and decide that Purges are moral imperatives. However, the suffering is real, and those with empathy would fight against it. It doesn't take a belief in God to realize that its a screwed up idea. In fact, it is a belief in God (or a belief in other extreme ideologies) that allows many to ignore things like empathy and the suffering of others, and do what most of us would consider "evil".
Where do morals come from? Our common humanity and empathy, and our ability to understand how principles affect future happiness or suffering. Yes, people disagree on the principles of that last point. Some thing that dancing is wrong because will arouse unstoppable lecherous desires, while some think that being free with sexuality leads to a happier life. Different principles, but both ideally have a the aim to reduce suffering and maximize happiness.