RE: Stephen Hawking has died at the age of 76.
April 24, 2018 at 9:45 am
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(April 24, 2018 at 9:16 am)SaStrike Wrote: Anyway I think that Agnostic theists are so rare (much more rare than agnostic atheists)
I think they're definitely rarer but I don't think agnostic theists who are 99% certain that they are right are super rare.
Quote:because they feel the need to be certain about the existence of god therefore avoid the word "probable".
I think the belief most theists claim to have in their God doesn't match what they actually believe. Their belief in belief in God is stronger than their actual belief. That's why theists often have crises of faith and desperately beg God for forgiveness for doubting him.... because they really really hope God exists and they really want to get to heaven and they really fear hell... but their actual belief isn't quite as strong as they claim it is. They have moments of stronger faith, and they have moments of weaker faith in which they double down and try even harder to believe because they can't stand the doubts they're having.
Atheists don't have that problem. We know it's either all bullshit or almost certainly all bullshit... depending on the God.
Quote: Where as atheists can freely think and use reason so "I don't know if there is a god or not but lean towards not" is more common.
True. Although I doubt there are many atheists who call themselves atheists who is, say, 60% sure God doesn't exist, lol. We're all pretty much 99.9999% as far as I am concerened, about silly things like a magic invisible man who made it all.
There are plenty of atheists who are more 60/40 are the matter, and those atheists are atheists who tend to not call themselves atheists, rarely even join atheist forums, and call themsleves simply "agnostics". Which of course, makes no sense to us because either you believe or you don't... you can have agnostic theism and agnostic atheism but not just flat out agnosticism (unless of course, someone really believes that God is exactly 50% probable or the probability is completely unknown).... but still, these people who are pretty sure God doesn't exist because it's silly, think of themselves as agnostics simply because they are unsure, and they don't understand atheism.
David Mitchell is an example. He is clearly an atheist he just hates to call himself one... and doesn't understand atheism.
Here's a video on that:
He's an example of the classic person who calls themselves "agnostic" and says atheism is just as irrational as theism... because they don't actually understand agnosticism.